Lakenheath Old Boys

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Monday, December 13, 2010

United v. Arsenal Live!

The last time Arsenal played at Old Trafford, Arsene Wenger took the opportunity to mingle with the United faithful in the stands. We can only hope for a repeat performance, as the war of words between the two managers has heated up this week. It could get a bit spicy out there this evening. Don't even think of not joining me on the LOB from 3pm EST onward.

216 Comments:

Blogger The Blue Devil said...

The line-ups are already out for this evening's big two clash:

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Rafael Da Silva, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra,
Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson, Nani, Rooney, Park.
Subs: Kuszczak, Brown, Berbatov, Giggs, Smalling, Hernandez, Obertan.

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Squillaci, Koscielny, Clichy, Song,
Rosicky, Wilshere, Nasri, Chamakh, Arshavin.
Subs: Fabianski, Fabregas, van Persie, Walcott, Denilson, Djourou, Bendtner.

Referee: Howard Webb (S Yorkshire)

2:28 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Very interesting, that. The back four for United looks like what you might expect, but what about that midfield? I count three holding middies in Fletch, Carrick and Anderson. That leaves Park to nip about doing his thing and Nani to provide some width out right and Mr. Wayne Rooney with no room to hide as the lone striker up top.

2:31 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Arsenal in contrast have Chamakh and Arshavin up top with the in form Nasri buzzing about behind them. Song provides the graft as the holding middie and Rosicky and Wilshere the craft around the box.

So, who exactly is the home side today?

2:33 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Will be poking my head in here and listening to ESPN3 coverage at work.

Shhh!

2:43 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Brilliant stream as usual up through My Premium TV:

http://mypremium.tv/

2:47 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Welcome, Someone. I certainly sanction skiving off from work, particularly when it comes to watching the Beautiful Game. I'll look forward to your comments.

2:48 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Lovely ceremony pre-match for Ole Gunnar Solksjaer who is heading off to manage the Maltese national side. He'll be missed.

2:49 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Catalog is down for maintainence. Doing other things while the match is in an ear.

Nice stream on mypremiumtv too. Have not used that one yet.

2:51 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

It's one of my favorites now. Very easy to navigate and they have live links to the BBC and ITV channels so that Match of the Day is accessible on Saturday afternoons.

3:01 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Right then - down to it. United to get us started. Martin Tyler on the microphone. Can't get any better than that. Unfortunately it's the mad lisper Alan Smith alongside him.

3:02 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Is it all sports related channels? I know there was one news station streaming.

Game on.

3:03 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

It's mainly sports related but also has those main channel listings, so you can catch up on East Enders while having a late lunch.

3:05 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

I'll show my wife that one. She misses live BBC.

Chilcy runs down Nasri. Webb has a chat with him.

3:07 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Clichy nobbled Nani there and the Portugeezer is down for the count. An early yellow card from Howard Webb then? No, just a sharp word in Clichy's ear.

3:07 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Anderson doesn't beat the first man with his free kick. A waste. All United possession so far but nothing terribly probing.

3:08 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

A bit more adventure from the Arsenal is ended by a Chamakh's foul. And VDS immediately plays Rooney in up front. Does well 1 against 2 in getting a shot off that Szczesny has some difficulty with.

3:11 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I am home just to see Rooney have a nice dipping shot

I thought United would play with 1 up top. United can break so fast on the Arse

3:11 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I am home just to see Rooney have a nice dipping shot

I thought United would play with 1 up top. United can break so fast on the Arse

3:12 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I am home just to see Rooney have a nice dipping shot

I thought United would play with 1 up top. United can break so fast on the Arse

3:12 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

How has Roon looked?

3:12 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Great ball in there from Rosicky and Chamakh does well to beat his man and get a header on target. Easily saved by VDS though.

3:12 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Welcome, Dave! How was school today?

Roon has definitely looked up for it so far. Several nice lay-offs.

3:13 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

My computer is really acting up right now
Sorry about the double post

3:13 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

No worries.

Dracula looks a bit chilly on the bench. I want one of those snoods for Christmas but I thought that Ferg had banned them at OT.

3:14 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Anderson has done well as of late

Nani to take from miles out... at least he didn't hit the wall or row Q

3:14 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Arsenal are committing far too many fouls today. Giving away lots of opportunities for free kicks.

My boy Nani to strike this one....

Decent hit but Szczesny deals with another dipping shot.

3:15 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Rafael did well to track back and block Clichy's cross there.

3:17 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Hopeless by Park after being given the ball by Willshire

3:17 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Those aren't boos; they're saying "Roooooooooon."

3:18 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

More crap by Park... come on UNITED!!!

3:18 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Lots of tippy tappy stuff from Arsenal - very little thrusting as of yet. David Pleat would not be pleased.

3:19 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Nani takes an eternity to make a move and does nothing with it. Nice ball by Carrick but Anderson is offside

3:19 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

What's your problem with Park? It's not like he's been snacking on Shadow, although he would if given half a chance.

3:20 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

He has just done a couple of useless things with the ball recently

3:21 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Bloody hell - I've just noticed that Carlito has described his relationship with Citeh as "beyond repair." Crikey!

3:21 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Nani beaten to the ball there by Arse Shaven... go to the ball!

3:22 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Oh - that was a hopeless effort from Arshavin. What was he thinking?

3:23 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

What do you think about Big Sam getting the boot today?

3:23 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

No comments from you on the epic picture of the LHS 1982 Champions yesterday. Were you busy?

3:23 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

ooooh, Nani just wide!!!!

3:23 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Blimey - I hadn't heard! Good riddance to him, I say. I hate that bloke. I can go back to somewhat liking Blackburn now.

3:24 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Yeah, great picture!

3:24 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Yeah, great picture!

3:24 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

That's it?!!!

3:24 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

me too about Blackburn... computer acting up again

3:24 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Oh - Nani should have buried that one. He was slipping when he hit it. Needs longer studs in?

3:24 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Neville and Becks watching the match together... isn't that sweet

3:26 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I AM WATCHING AN IMPORTANT MATCH!!!!

3:26 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

What kind of snood is that Becks is wearing? Flash bastard!

And why isn't he in LA?

3:26 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I'll expect a full account via email after the match then.

3:27 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Route 1 from Arsenal. There's a surprise!

3:29 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Arshavin wins a corner off Rafael....

Played short - you'll like that.

3:30 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Where did you go - did Kathy just bring you tea and some bickies?

3:30 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

United call for a pen... it did hit hand but I agree... no pen

3:31 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Anderson wins United a corner now....

Nani whips it in and it's headed out.

3:31 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Crowd sounds good

3:32 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

You're a wee bit ahead of me. Are you on My Premium? I may have to refresh the link.

3:32 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

No, I am on ESPN 2 TV

3:33 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

No, I am on ESPN 2 TV

3:33 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I am here.. no tea either

3:35 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Rubbish ball there from Clichy. He's looked poor.

3:35 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

No tea? Without milk or sugar...or tea?! In a cracked and all....

3:36 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I had to suck on a piece of damp cloth!


Anderson should have done better there!

3:37 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I had to suck on a piece of damp cloth!


Anderson should have done better there!

3:37 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Roon's back to effing and blinding the officials. I suppose that's a good sign, right?

3:37 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

The other day I responded to a Facebook update from a friend talking about what she was cooking for dinner by asking, "Is there any Spam in it?" And no one got the joke - pathetic!

3:38 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

What is going on with my computer!

IT'S NOT ME

3:38 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Webby's not happy with Vidic now after that cruncher on Chamakh.

3:40 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Fletcher lucky to not get carded after touching Webb.

3:40 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I DON'T LIKE SPAM!

Fletch was fouled there but he was lucky not to go in the book

3:40 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

You are hogging the comments today, aren't you, mate? The Jermain Defoe of the LOB.

3:41 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Shush, dear, don't make a fuss. I'll have your Spam. I luv it!

3:41 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PARK!!!

HE'S SHORT HE'S HARD!!

3:41 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PARK!!!

HE'S SHORT HE'S HARD!!

3:41 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Nice cross by Nani to Park's head.

3:42 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

My double comments are bugging me!!

3:42 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

GOAL! It's in the net, but I'm not quite sure how! Park's celebrating, so that's something.

3:42 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

WE"RE TOP!!!

3:42 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

WE"RE TOP!!!

3:42 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Was that intention or not? Discuss....

3:43 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I am a bit peckish, you know.

3:44 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

The cross from Nani wasn't but I think the header was

3:44 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Arsenal are being very physical... don't complain Arsene


Settle down Fletch

3:45 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Chamakh given the first yellow.

3:45 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Nasty one there from Chamakh and he's going to pick up a yellow card for his trouble. Nani's down rolling about again.

3:45 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Don't have any baked beans? Can I have Spam instead?

3:45 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I've give him a second yellow just for the hairstyle. Cor!

3:46 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I REALLY want Rooney to get a goal from open play for the first time since the opening minute in Munich

3:46 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

What, you mean, Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam and Spam?

3:47 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Arse Shaven in the book

Chance for Nani

3:48 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Lots of snow out here today. What about your side of the state, Dave?

3:48 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Anderson or Nani....HOPELESS BY ANDERSON

Half time

Long may the score continue!

3:49 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Dirty, dirty Arsenal!

3:49 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

My sister told me about the Chilean miners were at the match. Becks having his picture with him

HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT!
He should have been a Scholes and Giggs

4:04 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

We're off... Arsenal gets us started... United attacking the Stretford End

4:05 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

We're off... Arsenal gets us started... United attacking the Stretford End

4:05 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

We're off... Arsenal gets us started... United attacking the Stretford End

4:05 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Teams back out then. Arsenal to get us underway in the second half. No changes as of yet.

4:05 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

My computer is doing it again!

Sometimes a window says confilct!

4:06 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

20 hours of open play for Roon

4:06 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

20 hours of open play for Roon

4:06 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Rosicky hits one well wide

4:08 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Van Persie is warming up on the touchline. The only problem is...he's rubbish!

4:08 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Fletch hasn't done that well tonight.
He was one of our best players last season.



Corner to United

4:09 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Fletch hasn't done that well tonight.
He was one of our best players last season.



Corner to United

4:09 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Song with a risky header gives up a corner.

4:09 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Rosicky tries a speculative one and it trickles harmlessly by the post.

4:09 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Are these double postings annoying you as much as it annoying me?
I feel like kicking myself off the blog!

4:09 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Rooney needs help up there

4:10 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Rooney needs help up there

4:10 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Not annoying me at all but you might be coming close to a yellow card.

4:11 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I agree with you. Roon has never really been that comfortable leading the line. He's much more effective playing behind a front pairing IMHO.

4:12 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Sagna wellies a cross rather than trying to pick out Chamakh at the near post.

4:13 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Hopeless by Nani!

Just make a move... stop doing the backheals!

4:13 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Hopeless by Nani!

Just make a move... stop doing the backheals!

4:13 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Trying to make up my mind whether I should go to an optional meeting at 4:30 or watch the end of the match. Any suggestions?

4:13 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

PUT IT IN ANDERSON!!!

4:13 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

PUT IT IN ANDERSON!!!

4:13 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

You can't take the Nani out of Nani.

4:14 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

The guy on the Beeb says that Nani is definitely United's best player... you?

4:14 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Oh - good save Szczesny at the feet of Anderson.

4:15 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Strangely enough, none of the United players has really shined for me, despite your being 1-0 up in the most important match so far this season.

4:15 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

STRUTH!
Nice move by Nasri but VDS should have done better but SCHMUCK couldn't net the rebound

4:15 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Vidic makes the save on Chamakh, wow.

4:16 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Lots of Arsenal pressure now. Surely United can't withstand that for 35 odd minutes.

Chamakh nearly in there but slightly ahead of the ball.

4:16 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Arsenal starting to make a lot of chances

4:17 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Arsenal starting to make a lot of chances

4:17 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

United looking very shaky right now
It is all Gunners

4:18 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

United looking very shaky right now
It is all Gunners

4:18 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Chamakh balloons a shot up and wins a corner.

4:18 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Great tackle by Anderson sets up Nani who misses TWICE!!!

4:18 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Great tackle by Anderson sets up Nani who misses TWICE!!!

4:18 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Fergie not happy with the Iberian!

4:19 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Golden opportunity for Nani fired high, he and Chichy were stripping the ball from each other.

4:19 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Oh - what a miss from my boy Nani!

4:19 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Surely it's time for some Arsenal changes, eh?

4:20 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

United haven't lost a match with Nani started for 70 games!
He does keep doing the same move. Back heals it with hit right to go left... the defenders know it!

4:21 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Getting fairly scrappy out there. I think that suits United.

4:21 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

HOPELESS ATTEMPT BY NANI FOR A CROSS!

4:22 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

HOPELESS ATTEMPT BY NANI FOR A CROSS!

4:22 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

RVP about to come on

4:22 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Nani must be doing something right.

4:22 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I am going to kick myself off!!!

4:22 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Why bother? RVP is hopeless.

4:22 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

RVP in for Wiltshire, who just got a knock?

Fabergas coming in too.

4:23 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Fabergas about to come on too

Wilshire and Rosicky to make way

4:23 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Fabergas about to come on too

Wilshire and Rosicky to make way

4:23 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Go on - give yourself a kick in the bum or have Kathy do it for you.

4:23 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

so is Nani

4:23 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Booing for Fab as he comes on - why?

4:24 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

RVP had a chance right away

4:25 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

More pressure from the Arsenal ends with a tame shot from Arshavin.

4:25 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

United really need a second..
They have scored at least two goals in all their home games...keep it going

4:26 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Evra and Park get in each other's way for a shot

4:27 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Evra and Park get in each other's way for a shot

4:27 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Is Anderson playing at center forward now?

4:28 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Roon has been very quiet in the second half
Should Berba come on

4:28 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

It is getting testy out there

4:29 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Twenty minutes left. I'm sticking around as it's still in the balance.

4:29 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

All I have seen Rooney do this half is lose a jump ball in the air

4:29 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I'd have Roon off now - he seems gassed.

4:31 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Hand ball on Clichy. Penalty.

4:32 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

PENALTY!!!


The linesman calls it... Arsenal didn't seem too upset about it but now they are
Arsene is complaining

Rooney to take

4:32 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

PENALTY! I didn't see it but the linesman saw the handball.

4:33 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

OVER THE BAR!!!!


HOPELESS!!

4:33 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

OVER THE BAR!!!!


HOPELESS!!

4:33 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Rooney fires the penalty into the bleachers!

4:33 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Arsene is livid. I don't know how intentional that one was. Clichy merely seemed to be sliding in with his arm at his side.

4:33 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Arshavin needs to be replaced by Walcott.

If Arsenal can't get inspired by that gift of a miss....

4:36 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

My stream went dead just as Roon was preparing to take it. Will Ferg rue not replacing Roon?

4:36 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Arse Shaven is off for Theo

4:36 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I agree, Someone. Theo might add a bit of pace to the Arsenal attack. RVP hasn't shown anything. Big surprise!

4:36 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

SO... IT IS YOUR FAULT THAT HE MISSED

4:37 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

SO... IT IS YOUR FAULT THAT HE MISSED

4:37 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

RVP is now trying to talk himself into Howard Webb's book.

4:37 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Fifteen minutes left for Arsenal to scratch out a draw here.

4:38 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

RVP was turned around on what should have been his first touch and has been absent since.

Cese has not shown much either.

4:38 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

United's defense has looked solid

4:38 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Neither team is passing that well right now

4:39 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

It really hasn't been much of an advert for Premiership footer, has it? Fast and furious but where's the quality?

4:42 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I don't think it has been that fast either. Furious maybe

4:42 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I don't think it has been that fast either. Furious maybe

4:42 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Just over 5 to go plus added time

4:43 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Song picks up a yellow for pulling down Evra.

Giggs in for Anderson.

4:44 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Giggs is coming on for Anderson.
I don't know if I would have made that move

4:44 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Smudger wants Arsenal to push harder.

4:44 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Infostrada Sports on Twitter: "Wayne Rooney has missed four of his nine Premier League penalties and this was his third miss from the spot at Old Trafford."

4:45 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

ooh, nice chip from Rooney

4:45 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Just blow up ref.. we don't really need to play 90

4:46 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Szczesny's been good today.

4:46 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Roon finds Giggs, his crossed is blocked for a corner

4:46 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Bloody short one comes to nothing

4:47 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Bloody short one comes to nothing

4:47 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

2 to go

4:47 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Giggs breaks but his pass went awry... United were caught with players going forward. Dangerous cross


4 added minutes

4:49 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Barry Glendenning on the Guardian:

"Why did I bet on Arsenal? Do I never learn? They're flaky, windy and thoroughly unreliable, writes minute-by-minute reporter in last-ditch bid to tempt fate."

4:49 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

RVP is never going to be that kind of target man who's looking to get on the end of those crosses.

4:50 PM  
Blogger Someone Said said...

Ferdinand heads out a nice cross by Walcott. Arsenal showing a lack or ability late.

4:50 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Well into stoppage time now....

4:50 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

3 to go

COME ON UNITED!!

4:51 PM  

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