THE WORLD CUP FINAL 2018
Oh how it could have been!!! Oh how I could have been a bag of nerves at this moment!!! Alas, our beloved England couldn't manage to go that one extra step and make this tournament so so so special.
So the Final that we didn't want brings together France and Croatia... who will be World Champs?
Join me as Russia 2018 comes to an end
UWS
319 Comments:
Morning, mate! Thanks for getting us started. I can't really get excited about today's World Cup Final, and I feel that watching it is more duty than pleasure. I haven't enjoyed France at all this tournament. They barely got out of first gear during the group stages, needing an 80th minute own goal to get past Australia, another jammy goal to dispense with Peru and then drew against Denmark. They've truly only shined when pushed in the Round of 16 against Argentina. Otherwise, it's been a very tactical, modern and boring game from Les Bleus. It's true, I had enjoyed Croatia up until the semi-finals; however, that match killed that for me. Now, they're dead to me. So, sure I'm watching but I doubt whether I'll enjoy it. Bah humbug!
Good morning, Bob and Dave. I agree with Bob's statement. Feeling the same way but going for France.
The lost host nation to win a World Cup was France in 1998. So much for home field advantage.
No idea who I want to win
They've mentioned a couple of times that Didier Deschamps could become the third man to win the World Cup as player and manager. I know that Franz Beckenbauer is one of them but who is the other?
That was perfectly put Bob
"more duty than pleasure"
Oh how it could have been!! You could have been here and we would crack open a bottle of champagne while taking a dip in the pool..............DAMN IT!!!
The starting line-ups for the two sides:
France: Lloris, Pavard, Varane, Umtiti, Hernandez, Pogba, Kanté, Mbappé, Griezmann, Matuidi, Giroud.
Croatia: Subasic, Vrsaljko, Strinic, Lovren, Vida, Rakitic, Modric, Brozovic, Perisic, Mandzukic, Rebic.
Zagallo of Brazil
Wasn't he playing in 58 and 62 and managed in 70
Croatia have a similar managerial situation to England. Their manager was not hired until last October and had previously managed in the UAE and Saudi Arabia. Took over last October for the remaining two qualifiers and the playoff against Greece.Not sure how he went from managing in the Middle East to managing in the world Cup final, but he turned out to be the right choice for them,
I think I am leaning toward Croatia....truthfully....who gives a monkeys
That's correct, Dave. Well done. He was the other one besides Beckenbauer.
I think Vida has had a better tournament than Lovren and that Rakitic has had a better tournament than Modric.
Lovren one of the best defenders in the world? He's not even the best defender for Croatia nor for Liverpool.
One of our local ambulance chasers advertised that they will come over during the soccer match to help.
Lots of hype about Mbappe - let's see him turn it on on the pitch. I want goals! A drab 1-0 win for France with a headed goal from a corner by a central defender ain't gonna cut it.
Finally got my BBC link working
Of course, BBC and ITV covering the match
All the talk of Wimbledon Final and the World Cup Final on at the same time and what would they have done if England were playing! Before the semi, Wimbledon said no plans were in place to change anything.... Well England are playing and Djokovic is two sets up already and probably going to win it before kick off
Thanks for helping out with the trivia, UWS. I didn't remember Zagallo but that makes sense.
agreed...but not a lot of goals from Griezmann and Mbappe
Agreed, Bob. The last two finals finished 1-0 in ET and the last three have gone to ET. Hoping for better today
Don't know why I knew that
Agreed, MUR - Lovren should have been sent off against England. He's pants.
WOW ! That's odd that both finals are at the same time. What will the majority in England watch today?
Everything was always relaxed in the BBC studio...today they are all wearing jacket and ties.... well done BBC
Teams in the tunnel...can't believe it isn't ENGLAND
DAMN IT....again
Can France lose a second straight Final to a first time winner?
Teams in the tunnel now - bah humbug....
Last final to have more than two goals was in 1998 when France won. Is that a sign?
Only one United player on the pitch
Premier League players...5
How many Leeds?
How many Championship?
Sorry Bob...humor!!
Here they come
Agreed, chaps. No checkmate for Croatia with their foreign legion of players?
Last two Championship players in the tournament were Chadli and Butland.
Tape recorder up your nose time
We have the plumber over fixing a leak under our sink.
Why is that ?
LOL! One of my favorite Python bits. Well in, UWS.
Matt doesn't like the length of the Croatian anthem
Matt doesn't like the tactics of Croatia saying players won't play and then they play
President of Croatia wearing a checkerboard dress. Is that a fashion statement?
The captains are a current Spud and a former Spud. Gooner will not be pleased.
Tape recorder up a friend's nose!
The World Cup Final is underway from Moscow.
Mbappe is the third teenager to play in Final
Pele 1958 and Bergoni of Italy in 82
Both won
We are off
And Croatia get us going in this World Cup Final. Bah humbug!
DAMN IT..trailing in three straight knockout matches
Nikola Kalinic of Croatia sent home for refusing to come on as a sub against Nigeria. A penny for his thoughts Bob and Dave? He is not able to get a medal.
I'm already bored. Bah humbug!
World Cup quiz on HQ at half time
Indeed, MUR - what a numpty!
That's the quiz app
Big Argie is the ref. That's a good choice.
Croatia with most of the early running here. Perisic earns a throw.
Bob...86 minutes from the Lancer Cup...come get it mate!!
I'm with UWS - I'm leaning toward Croatia here. I like an underdog. France are overhyped.
My laptop struggling to show the WC, Wimpleton and LOB
Really bored now.
I was in the kitchen with the plumber. Did I miss anything?
Modern day footballer...failing to get the cross over
SHOCKING
Mbappe tackles Rakitic for a corner.
Mbappe back defending against Strinic. Shows how boring and defensive France are. Corner.
Stop mentioning winner against England
Lloris punches away the corner from Modric
Leaky under the sink like Lovren and out dated filters getting removed like Kalinic, who was a flop at Blackburn . Does anybody remember that?
Croatia on top
Coratia have made the better start. COR!
Persic is just unable to control a long diagonal pass.
Oh - Perisic nearly in there.
Perisic fails to control the ball
That reminds me of the the Charlie Nicholas goal for Scotland
Controlled with left and volleyed with right
Matt just said some teenager played for Uruguay in 1950 according to ESPN
Who is watching with you, UWS?
Infantino chatting with Putin. Don't care for that.
I'm flying solo in Harlingen.
Useless cross.... TERRIBLE!!
I'm here with Tom, Matt and Kathy
Jon promised to watch the Final with me if England were playing
Please stop talking about population!!
Only need 23 to play in the WC!!
Plumber done, but these two not.
First flash from Mbappe. He got to the by-line but couldn't find a man.
France do their first attacking
Mbappe with a good move...fails to find a man of course
Greaseman falls...gets a free kick
DIVE
Brozovic fouls the Grease Man.
Griezmann cons the ref and gets a free kick.
GOAL !!!! THE GREASE MAN CURLS IN A NICE FREE KICK THAT HE WON BY DIVING.
Bah humbug...France have scored from the free kick.
I think it's an own goal maybe.
GOAL FOR FRANCE!!
OG by MANZU....serves you right for scoring against England
JUSTICE!!!
Bob will be hoping that it gets credited as a Mandzukic OG
Yep - it's Mandzukic, the villain against England, who has nodded it in.
Again... was a dive...cheaters
I agree with UWS about the diving and the population. If Croatia win won't they be doing it with 22?
Kante fouls Modric.
2010 was the 117th minute for first goal
2014 was 100+ minutes for first goal
At least there is a goal inside 20 minutes!
Vida heads over the free kick from Modric.
It's official.... 63 out of 64 games have had a goal!!!
Bloody France and Denmark
Lineker tweeted that this was the first OG in a Final
Last three finals have gone to ET. Hope this one is decided in 90 minutes.
Didn't know that. It has been a record setting World for OG's so why not?
France had a chance there... bad touch by Mbappe
Better from Croatia as Rakitic volleys high and wide.
Was I correct about Croatia only needing 22 players instead of 23?
Tom, Matt and I are thinking about how many Man United players to have won the World Cup while they were United players. Pogba could be one...we've only thought of Bobby Charlton and Nobby Stiles. That is it, right?
The squad is 23.. for an extra keeper
I wish I were with you, UWS, watching France v. England.
Knate booked for a foul from behind on Perisic as he picks up his requisite booking.
Me too]
1-1....great finish!!
GOAL! Croatia are back in it! Now we've got a match on!
1-1!
GOAL !!!! PERISIC ,WHO WON THE FREE KICK SCORES WITH A FANTASTIC FINISH
Now he annoys me...pointing to his leg muscles!!
Act as if you've scored before!!
England were better against Croatia than France have been!
Free kick from Modric was headed on by Vrsaljko then Mnadzukic then Lovren before Perisic smashed it in the corner. Game on.
Both teams have scored in the Final
That had happened in EVERY final until 1990 when W Germany beat Argentina 1-0. In 1994...NEITHER team scored!!
Since then, only 2006 did both teams score
The reason why I said 22 for Croatia is because Kalinic was sent home and could not be replaced. They still have three keepers, but only 22 players because one was sent home for being a real plonker.
Djokovic just won Wimpleton in straight sets
Bob less than an hour away from the Lancer Cup!!
Agreed about England being better than France against Croatia and great anoraking about the finals. Well done.
Grease Man to take a corner because Vida back headed the ball out.
France are claiming a handball now. VAR check?
Umtiti heads wide at the near post and VAR to check and see if Perisic handled in the box.
Almost in at the front post again... was that a handball.. VAR time?
Oh Dear... Dr Joe time
I think it is a pen....going to have a look
Looks like a pen to me. Check on-going now.
Should be a definite penalty. Argie should see it on the first view.
If it is... Greaseman to take... and get closer to Kane
Ref went back to have a second look!!
Here he comes...penalty
Penalty it is for France!
At least we are seeing goals
Why is he taking so long? Penalty France. First final ever to have a penalty given by VAR.
Griezmann to take against Subasic.
Thunderstorm in Moscow.
Up comes Griezmann...goal!
And Griezmann scores!
France 2-1 up!
GOAL !!!! THE GREASE MAN PLACES IT IN THE CORNER, SENDING SUBASIC THE WRONG WAY. NOW 2-1 TO FRANCE.
France have created nowt and are two one up!
Wednesday's goal scorers against England have been punished severely today....serves them right!!
Video game boy scored with help of video review. Sound about right , Bob and Dave?
England left for home today... they are missing the Final!!
That wasn't a foul, was it? He got a card!
Cross from Perisic miss hit by Rebic.
Ignoring punmeister
Lucas Hernandez booked for that foul
Most OG in the World Cup Finals... 12!!!
Both French goals gifted by the players that scored against England. Serves them right.
Already made that comment MUR
If you typed that comment were you really ignoring me, LOL?
I agree, MUR - that's karma for you.
You did about the first goal, but not the second . I should be credited with that one.,
Oh - that Lovren shot could've gone anywhere.
Stop giving MUR credit...I already said they were severely punished
Christmas in July for France?
Griezmann just two goals away from robbing me of my Lancer Cup dreams - he's on four now.
11:39 post!!
France have been really lucky. An own goal and a penalty.
Umtiti down for France.
Corner to Croatia.
3 added minutes
Should have done better with that header
Oh - Vida was within inches of connecting on that corner.
Not a good day for the Nocito Sports Center. Didn't mention the second goal and was incorrect about Croatia having 23 players in the squad. Goldy Sports Center mentioned the second goal and Nocito sports Center mentioned the first
61% possession from Croatia, yet they're 2-1 down.
Meaningless possession stat
What are you on about... this was my comment!!
Wednesday's goal scorers against England have been punished severely today....serves them right!!
Lloris almost blows it!
Perisic misses the cross from Vrsaljko. That was a great chance.
That's it for half time
France luckily up 2-1
It's 2-1 at the half to France.
Can you tell me when you mentioned Perisic ? I couldn't find it .
My apologies to the Nocito Sports Center . I saw the comment typed at 11:39, but isn't three minutes a bit picky considering we typed continuously? Still credit to you for mentioning that first Well in.
The consensus in the BBC studio seems to be that Croatia were very hard done by and having seen another couple of replays,
Second half underway
Second half starting up.
ok. here I am. what did I miss?
This is the second world cup final in a row that I missed the first half. At least I foresaw that my wife would talk too long, so I taped the game.
Wait. It dvr did not work. Damn! Oh well, I will find it on the internet in the next few days. However, I have now assured that there will be no more goals, since I am actually watching now.
Griezmann with an early shot - easily gathered by Subasic.
They were with the first goal due to the dive, but the second goal was pot on. Croatia sure didn't complain about the decisions going their way against England.
Nice shot from Rebic going that fast.
Welcome, Red Devil - I'm sorry you missed the first half. I was in Scrooge mode about this match but it was better than I imagined it would be.
Lloris tips over a shot from Rebic.
Good afternoon, RD. I concur with Bob. Sorry you missed the first half, which was a decent one.
Great defending by Varane off a long ball and great mopping up by Lloris.
Umtiti tackles Modric for a Croatia corner.
Back to the computer... quite an open opening to the half
At half time, I watched the highlights of DC United... Rooney's assist was just being the last person to pass it two feet before the guy shot
Great sprint by Mbappe
People on the pitch...they think it's all over!!
These guys have uniforms on!!
BOOO
Mbappe uses his speed to get past Vida , but Subasic rushes out to block from his former Monaco teammate.
Oh - great chances at both ends now. This match has really come to life. And just like that, some idiots have run onto pitch.
If the score stands, it will be the first WC since 2006 where the more deserving team does not win. 2014 was close, since Argentina had the better first half, but otherwise, maybe 1978?
The match stopped because some moron rushed on to the pitch
Lloris punches away a cross intended for Mnadzukic.
There were more than one person that came on...it was coordinated
Kante off
Nzonzi on for Kante earlier than expected. Like for like?
Kante the water carrier coming off now. Stephen Nzonzi on.
Is that a wise French substitution?
What do you Prem league experts think?
Shazam says "hi," Red Devil.
Losing the use of my laptop for a bit
I'll be watching
They're a bunch of morons for sure.
It was earlier than expected , but probably because Kante was booked in the first half. Deschamps probably didn't want to take any chances.
On my phone right now
More difficult to comment
For me, the three best players at the tourney have been Hazard, Modric and Grease-man in that order. I guess it should go to whichever of the two is on the wining team at the end.
Infantino signing a ball. Why?
Does Greaseman get an assist for that?
GOAL! Pogba seals the French victory!
GOAL !!! POGBA GIVES FRANCE A 3-1 LEAD WITH A CRACKER AFTER SEVERAL SHOT WERE BLOCKED. HARD TO SEE CROATIA COMING BACK.
Pogba extends France’s lead
A United player scores in the World Cup Final
Sir Bobby never did that
That was a very smart shot by Pogba.
I think so, RD
Oh - what drama in the Croatia box now! France starting to really turn it on.
Brozovic clears for a corner.off a cross from Olly.
Great saving slide there
Time to call the engraver's Bob. You have all but won the Lancer Cup
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