Lakenheath Old Boys

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Sunday, September 12, 2010

Birmingham v. Liverpool

In most seasons, Liverpool would be one of the top four clubs and Birmingham City would be staring down the barrel of a long battle against the drop. Instead the Blues have the chance of sliding into fourth spot (currently occupied by Blackpool!) with a win that would send Pool spiraling toward the dropzone. Join me for all the usual LOB banter this morning.

144 Comments:

Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Here are the teams for this afternoon's clash:

Birmingham: Foster, Carr, Johnson, Dann, Ridgewell, Larsson, Ferguson, Bowyer, Gardner, McFadden, Jerome. Subs: Taylor, Murphy, Derbyshire, Michel, Fahey, Zigic, Jiranek.

Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Konchesky, Maxi, Poulsen, Lucas, Gerrard, Jovanovic, Torres. Subs: Jones, Meireles, Agger, Pacheco, Kyrgiakos, Babel, Ngog.

10:40 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Fernando Torres has seemed to be getting back toward his best form in recent. It will be interesting to see what he can do today alongside new boy Jovanovic. Maxi comes in in the absence of the suspended Joe Cole.

10:41 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

The FSC coverage starts up at 10:59 with the usual race through the line-ups and then straight to kick-off.

11:01 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Brum get us underway at St. Andrew's.

11:01 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Good morning BD. I made it just in time for the kickoff.

11:01 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Early pressure from the home side.

11:02 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

The Blues are unbeaten in eight against Liverpool. May the streak continue.

11:03 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Morning, MUR. How are things in Texas?

11:03 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Barry Ferguson's shot is well wide and into the upper deck.

11:03 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Everything is well in Texas. It is still hot and humid. How is everything in Fredonia?

11:04 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I've got mixed feelings about Liverpool this season. I quite like Roy Hodgson and wouldn't mind seeing him as England manager at some point. A disastrous stint and quick departure would probably put paid to those ambitions. At the same time, I'm quite happy to see them drop out of the automatic CL spots in order to make room for other sides.

11:04 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Busy as ever here. Along with my usual duties, which I basically have under control at this point, I've been taking on more of an activist/advocacy role recently. It's a lot of fun but keeps me jumping.

11:05 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Brum defend well against Maxi Rodriguez . They have been a well organized under McLeish.

11:05 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

It sounds like lots of work and fun.I have been busy as well.

11:06 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I am surprised by the drop in form of Cameron Jerome. At one point when Brum were still in the Championship I wondered if he might make the jump to the England set-up.

11:07 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Fall is always busy - the conference season (October/November) is looming. I've got one in Boston and one in Denver coming up. Then New Orleans in March.

11:08 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Jerome has never made the adjustment to the premiership. I do agree with your statements about Liverpool and Hodgson. We discovered earlier this week that England will be looking for a new manager in two years.

11:09 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Yes - apparently 'Arry Redknapp is in pole position. I'm not happy with that choice - you?

11:10 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Spring is usually the busy time of the year for me. The girls are in sports and I usually get more tutoring jobs. I will probably attend a conference in San Antonio in December.

11:10 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Paul Konchesky is an interesting acquisition for Liverpool. He could add quite a bit.

11:11 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

For math educators?

11:11 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I am not sure. Other then Arry and Hodgson, England would probably need to go with a foreign manager again. It's still two years away,so you never know.A lot can happen.

11:12 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

The conference is with the College Board for AP math teachers.

11:12 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Oh - Torres should have done better there. Johnson did well in a similar way that he did for England this week but while his movement was good Torres scuffed his final shot.

11:13 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Nice - good for you. I'll bet San Antonio is nice in December. I've never been. Would love to see the Alamo at some point.

11:14 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I am not sure about Konchesky. He has not made the England squad,so I am not sure if he is a Champions League caliber player.I wonder if he made the move because he was one of Hodgson's Fulham players.

11:14 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

The infamous Jerome is offside to end what looked like Brum's most promising move of the match.

11:15 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

McFadden is working his socks off in the Birmingham midfield but I'd like to see the Blues run out a strike partner alongside Jerome.

11:16 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Will you be attending Social Studies conferences?

11:16 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I agree. Brum would be more of an attacking threat,but McLeish like to keep it tight.

11:17 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

You're absolutely right - Konchesky is a Hodgson favorite. That always seems to happen when a new boss comes in. UWS tipped me off to a wonderful documentary series about LUFC part of which reminded me that part of Brian Clough's disastrous 44-day run at the club included bringing in a load of Derby County players who unsettled the squad.

11:18 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I straddle the worlds of social studies and history of education, so the Boston conference is the History of Education Society and the Denver conference is National Council for the Social Studies. New Orleans in the spring is the biggie - American Educational Research Association. 10K people in attendance - too big for my taste.

11:19 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Fortunately, we have a transfer window, so there is no threat of a repeat until January at the earliest.Was the documentary on BBC America or was it online?

11:20 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Bit nasty from Torres with studs up. Could easily have been a booking.

11:20 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

The New Orleans conference is huge. I winder what they would do with 10k people.

11:21 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Stevie G took a knock,but he should be okay.

11:22 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

It was online. If you type "Leeds, Leeds, Leeds" into the YouTube search engine you'll find it. There are seven episodes covering the period of Revie's arrival in the early 60s to CL semi final in 2001.

The clips appear to be transfers from home video by a fan. I suspect that the original was a ITV Yorkshire Television production but it's unclear. It's a fascinating show, even for non-LUFC fans. I would definitely watch a similar program on MUFC history.

11:23 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Wow - tremendous save by Pepe from a good solid header from Jerome. Jerome couldn't have done better - it was just a top save by Reina.

11:24 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

WOW!! what a save by Reina as Jerome's header was destined for the bottom corner, but Reina tipped it around the post.The corner was a waste.

11:25 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

AERA is really too big. The program looks like a phone book, with a dozen concurrent sessions every hour. The registration fee alone is $275. I'm really disenchanted with it, but for some reason speaking at it, which I've done since 2005, is still considered the gold standard in the field.

11:26 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Dangerous free kick chance now for Birmingham after that Carragher foul.

11:27 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Free kick to Brum Just outside the penalty area as McFadden is tripped by Carradonna.

11:27 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

McFadden takes but it was always going to be hard to get it up and down from the distance.

11:28 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

McFadden curls the free kick well wide.

11:28 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Mark Halsey has lost his patience now. Gardner into the book.

11:30 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Craig Gardener is booked for a nasty challenge on Lucas. That could have been a red card.

11:30 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Stevie G tries an ambitious shot from long range and it is well over to the delight of the Birmingham fans.

11:31 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Lucas is down on the turf again. Ferguson getting some attention from Halsey now. Brum fans chanting "Same old Scousers - always cheating," somehow forgetting that Lucas is actually from Brazil.

11:32 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Barry Ferguson is upset at Lucas for claiming to be injured after minimal contact. I don't blame him. I wonder if the same was true after Gardener's challenge.

11:33 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

As it stands, Birmingham are in fifth spot with six points, just behind the surprising Tangerines. Liverpool are just below mid-table on five points.

11:34 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That was just over by Gardener after great work by Larsson.

11:34 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That was great idea by Stevie G ,but the attempted through ball to Torres fails to come off.

11:35 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Ferguson again, now on Maxi. Halsey waves on and the Blues fans are booing.

11:36 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Great stuff from Reina again. I really thought that ball was going in from the cross.

11:37 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Reina did well to punch away the cross as there was a player pressuring him.

11:38 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Torres goes down in the box but Halsey points toward a goal kick. I don't know - that looked a penalty to me.

11:38 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That could have been a penalty. Then Reina with a similar save against Gardener.

11:38 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

More heroics from Reina after a point blank header from Gardener. The header could have been more in the corner but it was still terrific reflexes.

11:39 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Stevie G heads away the corner.

11:39 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

The tabloids this morning were claiming that Fergie dropped Roon yesterday because the kid is depressed about the whole sordid affair story. What are your thoughts about that?

11:40 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I think Mark Halsey is fed with antics from the Liverpool players after Lucas twice and Maxi Rodriguez. I think he wants them to think twice before going down.

11:40 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Jerome with an ambitious volley out wide left. Nowhere near the goal.

11:42 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Agreed - Halsey has done well. It's good to see him back in the middle after seven months out battling cancer.

11:43 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I am not sure. Roon was definitely thinking with the little head instead of the big one. I think he did the right thing. It will give Roon some time to get this out of his system. Hopefully, he learned his lesson.The fans will give him some stick for a while . He was unpopular already due to his poor World Cup and the remark he made on youtube after the match against Algeria.

11:43 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I was not aware that Halsey was battling cancer. We wish him a speedy recovery.

11:44 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

This fixture has been a low scoring affair over the past few seasons.

11:45 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I think he's in full remission now. It was throat cancer - not as deadly as a lot of other forms but still no fun, I'm sure.

11:45 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Shame - this one could really use a goal to spice it up. It's been full of interest but I'd like to see one or two fly in early in the second half.

11:46 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I am glad to see him progressing. He has been going through a difficult time.

11:47 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

One minute of stoppage time .

11:47 AM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Half-time then - 0-0

I'm off for a quick shower. Back in a tick.

11:48 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Halftime and still 0-0. I think Brum were the slightly better team as Reina had to make three outstanding saves and Ben Foster has been a spectator.

11:48 AM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

The second half kicks off.

12:04 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Birmingham took a free kick from the left which created a few problems with some pinball action in the penalty area.

12:06 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Still little action as the match has failed to settle since the beginning of the second half.

12:09 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Konchesky passes to Jovanovic in the penalty area, but Jovanovic fials to control the pass. Goal kick.

12:11 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Stevie G has blood dripping from his ear. He will need to come off for treatment.

12:12 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I'm back and it's still 0-0 in the 55th minute. Brum seem to be dropping deep in this half. Are they satisfied with a point?

12:13 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Scott Dann was unmarked from the free kick, but he heads into the ground and sees his header bounce just over. He missed with a free header.

12:16 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Welcome back BD. I seems as if the pattern is similar to that of the first half. I wonder if one goal will decide this.

12:17 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

One more chance goes begging for Brum.

12:17 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

This is the kind of match that Liverpool have a nagging habit of sneaking in the end, although they miss the scheming of Dirk Kuyt who is often good for a late goal.

12:18 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Stevie G crossed from the right, but nobody was in the penalty area to attack the ball. I am surprised he has been permitted to play with that cut. He has had blood on his ear for the last ten minutes.

12:19 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

It's about bloody time. It's been at least ten minutes.

12:20 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That was a great challenge by Konchesky, but yet again someone failed to control the ball in the penalty area.

12:21 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Foster punches away for a corner as Torres tried to catch him out at the far post. The corner is cleared,but Liverpool still have possession.

12:22 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Stevie G. is trotting off again for treatment.

12:23 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Better from Liverpool. Stevie G still has blood coming from his ear.

12:23 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Hey guys
I have been around for the match but not on the computer... pretty dire stuff!!

12:24 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Hello UWS.

12:25 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

United v Liverpool next Sunday on FSC Plus... buggers

12:26 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Morning, UWS! I don't think that it's been quite as bad as "dire," but it could use a goal.

12:26 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Torres has been hopeless today... South African Roonylike

12:27 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I agree with the commentator (Jon Champion?). Torres hasn't looked the part today. I know that UWS thinks it's the hairstyle change. Should he return to the blond mullet?

12:27 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Pepe has made two great saves but that is about it. What has Liverpool done?

12:27 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That must be an early match because I thought it said 5:25 AM. The advert was on for only a split second.

12:28 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Oh well - I'm sure Justin will sort us out next Sunday.

12:28 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Jerome heads just wide after a great cross from Carr.

12:29 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Hodgson should drop Torres if he is not doing the job.he should not start based on his name alone.

12:29 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Konchesky and Reina have had good matches. Stevie G has been decent. Konchesky has been let down by players with poor ball control.

12:32 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I think that 5:25 time (I saw it too) was Pacific time

12:32 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Glad to hear that. I did not want to get up at 4:15 AM.

12:33 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Liverpool are hopeless!!

12:34 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Well stated. A poor match by Maxi Rodriguez and a poor shot.Raul Mireles is on for Lucas.

12:34 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

This could be interesting. Raul Meireles looked impressive for Portugal in South Africa, one of the few who did.

12:34 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

They played ok with 10 men against Arsenal but were second best
Got crushed by Citeh
WBA were the better side!

12:35 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Perhaps Hodgson drop Torres and replace him with Ngog. He is always good for a few goals.

12:35 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Is Knonchesky going off... he has done well down the left

12:36 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I thought so too. MUR doesn't rate him.

12:37 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Ngog has certainly looked in better form than Torres but I'm not sure he's CL quality either.

12:37 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Bloody Ear hasn't done much either.... I am okay with that. Stink it up in Liverpool Red and play blinders in with the Three Lions

12:39 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I am not sure how Konchesky will do over a period of time,but I will admit he did look the part today. If he shows this from, then I will admit to being wrong about him.

12:39 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Have I told you that I am still gutted about yesterday morning!!

12:40 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I feel the same,UWS.

12:40 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

That was better from Fernando but he waited too long to pull the trigger.

12:41 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I don't think he is that great but he was creating a lot for Liverpool today

12:41 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I can only imagine!

12:41 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That was the first glimpse of Torres as he weaved his way past several players,but the finish was really tame.

12:41 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

We both feel that way and the other bloke on this blog is cockahoop with a comeback win against Swansea!

12:42 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Inside the last ten minutes then. I still smell a goal coming.

12:42 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Liverpool definitely don't deserve three points today

12:42 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Hey - I haven't been rubbing your face in that one. I would have been plenty pleased with a 1-1 draw.

12:43 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I really dislike Mark Bright as the colorman. He talks too much

12:43 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I agree. Liverpool will be lucky to get a point out of this match, which would actually be a decent result at St. Andrews.

12:44 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Of course, I expect Carson to do a Green at some point

12:44 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Why? He's an LUFC Academy product. That's quality, that is.

12:46 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

I heard that Joe Hart was in on the act yesterday.

12:46 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I expected Jovanovic to play further forward. He's just been tucking in all afternoon.

12:46 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

I heard that too. I only saw the highlights but Hart dropped a couple for England on Tuesday as well

12:47 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Yeah - Joe got away with one yesterday.

12:47 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Banjo Boy nearly gifts one to Stevie G.

12:47 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Gerrard's got the bandage off again and there's more blood from the ear.

12:48 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

3 added minutes

I used to like that number until yesterday!!!!

12:49 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Zigic is on for McFadden. Is this his debut? He should have come on earlier.

12:49 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

Of course, when we scored two in 3 added minutes, we won the European Cup!! Everton only got a draw!!!!

12:49 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Is that enough time for Zigic to score a winner?

12:49 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Uh oh - the commentator mentioned GP. Sorry, chaps!

12:49 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That was nearly a winner for Liverpool,but Mireles could not finish the cross.

12:50 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Once more into the abyss for Liverpool. Comes to nothing. Come on, Brum!

12:51 PM  
Blogger United We Stand said...

That's it!
Nil Nil

Seven straight draws between these two

Have a good rest of the weekend

UWS

12:52 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Well, apparently that was lunch I was smelling rather than a late goal. I'm off to enjoy it, lads. I'll catch up with you for some Champions League/Championship action on Tuesday afternoon.

12:52 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

That's it . Sven consecutive league draws between these two as the match finishes at 0-0.

12:52 PM  
Blogger manunitedrules said...

Take care BD and UWS.

12:53 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Cheerio, lads!

12:57 PM  

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