Sunday Morning Coming Down
It'll be an extra early start to affairs tomorrow morning, so I'm setting this thread up early. I'll be looking for all you to join me for another packed day of Premiership footer. It all starts at the ungodly hour of 7am with United's trip to plucky Watford. There are a couple of fixtures then at the 9am hour and finally Spurs v. Sunderland at 11:30. Hope to see you in the a.m.
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Morning, chaps - United will try to bounce back this morning from two defeats to Citeh and Feyenoord. That's been the first hiccup for United since Jose Mourinho took over.
The teams warming up at Watford now:
Watford (3-5-2) Gomes; Cathcart, Prödl, Britos; Janmaat, Pereyra, Behrami, Capoue, Holebas; Deeney, Ighalo.
Substitutes: Pantilimon, Zuniga, Kenedy, Watson, Amrabat, Guedioura, Success.
Manchester United (4-2-3-1) De Gea; Valencia, Bailly, Smalling, Shaw; Fellaini, Pogba; Rashford, Rooney, Martial; Ibrahimovic.
Substitutes: Romero, Blind, Carrick, Herrera, Mata, Young, Memphis
So, we're set to start. Both sides are thankfully in their traditional kits.
It looks like Wayne Rooney is playing in the centre of midfield in a 4-1-4-1 formation. That will give Paul Pogba a bit more freedom, though you have to wonder about the contradiction of somebody being both captain and utility player.
Early free kick chance - Roon floats one in and Smalling gets his head to it but directs it wide.
Nothing much happening so far. United have had a bit more of the ball. Rashford is playing on the left and Martial on the right.
Several Watford free kicks in succession.
Oh - Prondel got on the end of the free kick and knocked it back across goal toward Deeney. Couldn't get on it.
Well - A long throw is launched towards Deeney in the box. Fellaini clearly, and stupidly, takes a big handful of his shirt. Michael Oliver mustn’t have seen it, as it was a clear penalty.
De Gea makes an excellent save from Deeney’s close-range header. United are a bit under the cosh here. Mou isn't happy.
United look like a collection of players rather than a team, which is what they are at this stage of their development. The elephant in the team doesn’t help.
Oh - decent United attack there. Rashford got the ball over and Zlatan hit the side-netting with his left footed shot.
There’s a break in play after a clash of heads between Martial and Janmaat. I think they’re fine. Martial looks woefully out of form at the moment.
Oh - Pogba hits the crossbar with a rocket of a shot that left Gomez for dead. Shame.
GOAL! The in-form Capoue rattles in a shot from a lovely pick-out on the wing.
It was Martial again who coughed up the ball on out wide. Janmaat centered it and Capoue knocked it home. I wouldn't be surprised if Martial came off here. He's been on the floor several times now and he'll be embarrassed by that loss of ball.
Martial is coming off now after a dire outing.
Ashley Young coming on to replace Kung Fu Panda now.
A lot of the United players look out of sorts right now.
Yet another Watford free kick now - a bit more central than the others. Capoue over it.
Twilight does well to collect.
Into four minutes of stoppage time now.
Back on for the second half now - it's all gone pear shaped for United so far. Got to get better.
Good morning, Bob. I just woke up and how are we losing to these mugs?
AMarabat wins a corner off of Pogs
The corner from Holebas is headed away then cleared to the Watford half.
Luke Shaw leads a counter then he plays a horrific pass to a wide open Roon.
It's bad enough that we're losing , bu then there's dirty old man Pleat helping out with the commentary
Smalling with a stupid foul on Aamrabat
The free kick from Capoue is headed away then Amrabat has a shot deflected for a corner.
There's the small Mata of a substitution upcoming
Roon with an absolutely useless cross. Now Mata is on for Valencia. I hope this change does Mata.
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! RASH TIES IT UP.
Morning, MUR - I'm just back from kitchen duty to see Rashford slam a close shot in after some criminal Watford defending.
1-1 Game on!
Now the momentum should swing back in United's favor.
The goal was scored almost immediately after the substitution.A Watford goal kick made it back to De Gea. He played it short to Bailey. He in turn played it out wide to Zlatan and his cross was headed by Behrami straight to Rash in the six yard box and Rash took advantage of that poor defensive header to blast home from close range
Amarabat dives in and gives away a cheap free kick. Will United take advantage?
Hello mate. I think we had to come from behind to win with two late goals last year. Perhaps the same here,.
Michael Oliver giving Pogba a bollocking for his attitude.
Young wins a corner now....United in ascendancy.
Watford are under pressure for the first time in the match, though Bailly temporarily relieves that pressure with a preposterously ambitious left-footed volley from 30 yards.
DAvid Pleat said that effort nearly made it to BedfordshIre. He did manage Luton back in the day.BOOM BOOM!
What do United and I have in common? We both slept the first half and cam to life in the second half.
Boom boom indeed.
I have no idea what formation United are playing now. It’s a freestyle 4-3-3.
Pogba just escapes a yellow card there.
BLOODY HELL! Pogba giodts the Hornets a fre ekick by the corner flag with a barge on Perrerryra.
He takes A HORRIBLE FREE KICK AND IT TAKES triple the attempts that it would take an AYA team to clear.
What happened to UWS? He couldn't bear to watch. It's as if he knew this wasn't going to be pleasant viewing.
And now Pogba has been booked - he was begging for that.
Haven't heard from UWS this morning - maybe he's in hiding?
Now pogs gets into it with Deeney and Michael Oliver has had enough, booking him.
Now it's an intriguing free kick oppo out wide left. Zlatan over it - blasts into the wall.
Now Cathcart fouls Shaw just outside the box. Zlatan takes and it's blocked by the wall. Former Hornet, Yashley crosses straight to Gomes Addams.
Rash is fouled just outside the box by Max Britos.
Hollaback Girl picks up the latest yellow.
Perhaps it was Holebas. The free kick is headed away
Hair Bear wins a corner That is headed away then cleared
Oh - Gomez saves brilliantly from Zlatan!
WOW!!!!What a world class save by Gomes Addams from a great header by Zlatan from a great cross by Hair Bear of all people.
Too much fouling by the Watford back four at this point - they're giving United chances.
A rash challenge by Max Britos gifts United a free kick
Gomes Addams is fouled by Hair Bear, who would fit in with the Addams Family.,
Juan Zuniga replaces the goalscorer Capoue, who has had another good game.
Capoue , who has ha d a great start to the season is replaced by Carlos Zuniga, the Colombian international. That reminds me that I'm still working on finishing up a cuppa coffee.
Sorry, mate - supersub Zuniga has rattled in another leading goal for Watford.
DAMN!!! THE COLOMBIAN SCORES AS SOON AS I FINISHED TYPING THAT HE HAD COME ON.
Zuniga must have had his jolt of coffee this morning because he scored with his first touch.
mEMPHIS ON FOR sHAW.
Lindy comes on for a late cameo.
Thanks, mate. We'll be lucky to get help from Desmond
Sorry - that's Memphis - I get all of your light-skinned Afro-European players confused.
Troy Deeney is helped up by Mike Oliver and booked for a foul.Then waste it with a foul of their own
That's okay.I often do that
Now Hair bear is booked. Jose is none too pleased.
Desperate straits for United now - Hair Bear picks up an unnecessary booking.
How long did Zuniga score after coming on? Gomes Addams took a free kick and 39 seconds later the ball was in the back of the net. It was headed away then the Hornets won a free kick at the halfway line . A few passes later Perrerya passed for Zuniga to score with a first time finish
Ighalo takes forever to come off as he's replaced by Success , which the Hornets have been
Zlatan fouls MAx Britos.
Since the Hornets brought on Success , I'm sure he'' be marked by Failure.,
Into four minutes of stoppage time. As Roon stupidly fouls Perreryra by the corner flag and is booked and will run time off the clock for the Hornets
A frustrated Rooney dives in and gets booked - this is sad.
Now Deeney fouls Smalling
Bloody hell - Hair Bear has given away a penalty, tripping up Zuniga.
Success living up to his name with a great run and
BLOODY HELL!!! WHAT A MORON HAIR BEAR IS. HE GIFTS THE HORNETS A PENALTY WITH A HORRIBLE FOUL ON ZUNIGA.
Troy Deeney has picked up the ball - he usually takes theirs.
There's no way Success could be playing for United. Our players are failures.
Deeney rockets home the penalty. 3-1. Sorry, mate.
FATTY TO TAKE THE SPOT KICK AND GOAL HE MAKES IT 3-1 FROM THE SPOT.
Thanks, mate.That pretty much raps up this match. next is a relegation six pointer.
That's it and the Hornets defeat United 3-1 in a horror show with Jose sportingly congratulating Walter Matzzari
Dear oh dear - the whistle goes and Rooney is still having a chat with the officials. Not a good day for United and their supporters. That's three defeats on the rot and Jose has a lot of questions to answer.
For Watford, it's a tremendous win and three vital points in their bid to stay up.
I think United should sack Jose and put Hose B in charge. Do you agree?
The Turnip is in the stands loving this win.
A chat with the officials. He was okay with how our players played. Why isn't he having a go at the United players? that's what a captain should be doing. the officials had a better match than the United players.
GET A CLUE ROON.
Will you be around for the other matches?
LVG type stats for United with 60% possession and only two shots on target
Aberdeen won 1-3 at Crocodile Dundee. Next, Celtic play at Nessie. Rangers drew 0-0 at their near Neighbors Ross County yesterday
BLOODY HELL !!! IT'S Ian Darke with the commentary as they're off from Selhurst Partk
Zaha wins a corner for Palace.
Stoke counter off the Palace corner then Glen Johnson concedes a free kick to Palace.
I also have The Saints vs the Swans on a link
It takes Ian Darke an eternity to name the categories in which Palace are last. He could have just stated that Palace are last in every category.
Walters is offside with just Mandanda to beat, but shoots wide. Ian said it would not have counted. Really Ian?
Palace win a corner that is cleared, want a penalty for hand ball on Glen Whelan , and are putting the Potters under pressure.
Zaha goes on a solo run and is fouled just outside the box by Arnautovic. The Swans have a free kick too.
GOAL !!!!JAMES THOMKINS, THE NEW SIGNING FORM THE HAMMERS HEADS IN THE FREE KICK. POOR DEFENDING BY JON WLATERS
Now Palace have a corner.
GOAL!!!WOW PALACE ARE TWO UP AS SCOTT DANN HEADS IN THE CORNER. HORRIFIC MARKING BY THE POTTERS
I guess Sparky is still on the touchline, but his team are off to an atrocious start. Two goals scored off of set pieces.That was their season total coming into the match
How bad are Stoke? I may take a shower during this one.
Great save by Flappy from Shane Long off a run and pass from Nathan Redmond. Then the offside flag is raised.
Hello mate. This is a decent match. Stoke is really awful Worse than even United.
Arnautovic limping gingerly. Ian goes on and that it would be a huge loss for stoke if he has to come off . Has he been watching the player who has done naught this season?
Another free header off a Palace corner, but Beneteke heads straight to Old Man Given
Puncheon with a long range effort straight to Old MAn Given
Flappy tips over a free kick from Tadic
Boni shoots wide with just Mandanda to beat after he tackled Scott Dann
Bruno Martins-Indi fouls Townsend just outside the box.
Old Man Given has to be alert as Townsend curled it in and the veteran keeper pushed it away at his near post.
A minute's applause for Souare, who as injured in a car crash this week.
Yikes! Palace were bottom, but will move up to the top half of the table with a win. Bojan with a clumsy foul on Zaha
The free kick from Andros is punched away then Bojan concedes a corner.
Scott Dann heads well wide from the corner. In the other match , Claude Puel let's hiss assistant, Eric Black know how he feels about the Saints performance. I presume the Frenchman speaks fluent English.
An atrocious cross from Arnautovic and Ian replies by saying better from Stoke. I guess anything is better.
Flappy saves a header from Van Dijjck off a corner.
Shaquiri is out injured for Stoke and is not expected back till February . That and the loss of Jack Butland are massive.
Wee Joe takes a decent free kick that's headed away for a corner.
It's taken short and is easily cleared as Stoke do their best impression of United.
Joe Ledley with a long range effort halfway to Southampton.
Shane Long is booked for simulation as he attempts to win a penalty for the Saints. It seems that Mike Jones made the correct decision.
Nathan Redmond shoots high and wide with just Flappy to beat
Classie shoots straight to Flappy as the ball broke to him off a run down the right from Tadic
Redmond miosses an open goal as there's a minute of stoppage time in both matches.
Halftime in both matches as it's 0-0 at St. Mary's and Palace are two up thanks to goals from set pieces in the first eleven minutes.
The second half is underway from Selhurst Park. Damian Delaney is on for the injured James Thomkons.
And from St. Marys
MacArthur clears for a Stoke corner.
Mandanda easily saves a tame header from Shawcross from the corner.
Arnautovic wins a corner. Bojan to take.
A wayward header from Shawcross as the Potters keep possession, then Palace break
Joe Ledley wins a Palace free kick. The free kick from Andros is cleared for a corner.,
OH!!!! Nearly another set piece goal as Bojan clears a header off the line from Scott Dann off the corner from Andros.
A world class tackle by Delaney on Arnutovic to preserve the clean sheet
A double substitution for the Saints Hoijberg on for Classie and Charlie Austin on for Shane Long. Like for like , so Claude Puel sending out a message that he's not pleased with what he's seeing
Arnautovic with words for the Palace bench as he's not pleased with a challenge. Why not have words with his teammates for playing so poorly?
Charlie Austin heads just wide seconds after coming off the bench
A tad naughty by Zaha on Bojan. Not a single so far in this match
Arnautovic takes and Bruno Martins-Indi has a shot deflected for a corner after some ping pong in the box. The corner deflects off of several players and eludes Shawcross as it's out for a goal kick
The first booking of the match as MacArhtur commits a crunching foul. In the other match, Romeu heads into the ground and just over off a Saints corner
OH!!!!! How did Charlie Austin not score . A great Saints move down the right and a great pass into the box. Austin slid in and his shot came off the post from three yards out. Now the Saints have a corner.
GOAL !!!! THE SAINTS TAKE THE LEAD!!!! THE SAME EXACT MOVE DOWN THE RIGHT . A CROSS DEFLECTED OFF OF TWO SWANS PLAYERS THEN CHARLIE AUSTIN CHESTED DOWN THE PASS AND BLASTED A SHOT INTO THE ROOF OF THE NET.
The Swans throw away the Ki as he's replaced by Jeff Montero
Diuof is on for Stoke as the Potters desperately need a goal. They've only scored two league goals this season
If Palace win then they will be in ninth place , but it's really early in the season
Arnautovic is stupidly booked for a nudge on Andros.
GOAL !!!!!MACARHTUR HAS A SHOT DEFLECT OFF OF GEOFF CAMERON TO PUT PALACE THREE UP. IT CAME OFF THE FREE KICK THAT WAS HEADED AWAY BY SHAWCROSS. MACARTHUR CUT IN AND SCORED .
All three Palace goals resulted from set pieces someway somehow
GOAL !!!! ANDROS LEADS A PALACE BREAK, IS GIVEN THE FREEDOM OF SE LONDON, CUTS IN THEN SCORES WITH A GREAT FINISH PAST OLD MAN GIVEN
This goal was from open play: WIDE OPEN PLAY. Scott Dann won a tackle far too easily and it broke to Andros, who took advantage of the wide open spaces.
Flamini is on for Joe Ledley as Martin Kelly heads away a free kick from former Pool teammate, Joe Allen, then Diouf heads well over from the corner.
Finally a useful remark from Ian as he states that Stoke have been outscored fourteen to one in the past four matches. CRICKEY!
Martino on for Tadic, presumably to hold on to a 1-0 lead.
Boni shoots straight to Manadanda as former Saints player, Jack Cork, is replaced by a supposed prodigy from the Swans Academy.
A sign of the times for Stoke as Flamini coughs up the ball, Boni has a wide open goal, and slips as he's about to shoot and the danger is cleared. A sign of how bad things have gone for Stoke.
A standing ovation for Andros as her's replaced by Chong Lee.
A great save by Forster from Siggy then Romeu clears it away
Speaking of showers, I'm back feeling squeaky clean and it appears that Stoke have had a shower today. 4-0. Thump.
GOAL! Arnautovic pulls one consolation goal back. 4-1.
Last kick of the match.
Over to the relegation dogfight at Saint Mary's. Soton are 1-0 up - this would be a key win for the Saints.
Are you sticking around for the late one?
You would expect a home win for Spurs against a team who have had their annual false start to the season, but this has already been a pretty strange Premier League campaign. Nobody knows anything - except the team news, which is just in.
Teams gathering in the tunnel now:
Tottenham Hotspur (4-2-3-1) Lloris; Walker, Alderweireld, Dier, Vertonghen; Dembele, Wanyama; Sissoko, Alli, Son; Kane.
Substitutes: Vorm, Davies, Trippier, Eriksen, Lamela, Winks, Janssen.
Sunderland (4-3-3) Pickford, Manquillo, Djilobodji, Kone, van Aanholt; Cattermole, Kirchhoff, Ndong, Januzaj, Defoe, Pienaar.
Substitutes: Denayer, Khazri, Watmore, O’Shea, McNair, Gooch, Mika.
Hey Boys, I have commandeered Tom's laptop after being guilted to joining today. I have had a busy weekend!
Welcome, mate - great to have you on board. Many thanks for Tom. Sorry about that United result this morning.
Spurs start this one in 7th but could jump to 3rd over their cross-town rivals Arsenal with a big win today.
Sunderland are second bottom but could escape the drop zone with a win, plunging Bournemouth into the bottom three.
Spurs get us underway at Shite Fart with their traditional kit. But what on earth are Sunderland wearing?!
I agree with you, mate. United weren't good but probably deserved a draw. Martial was fouled in the first half and it wasn't a pen.
Just a kick off happened, there was a crash sound and our power went out. Some tree hit the wires... thank god we have a full house generator. Kathy's dad put one in when he was living here
Blimey - do you have to go and do some emergency tree surgery? Hope everything's okay around the house.
It’s all Spurs, as you’d expect. This is a much stronger-looking side Sunderland, however, with Kirchhoff and Cattermole giving the defence plenty of protection.
Wanyama tries an overhead that's neither here nor there. Well over the top.
Good start by Spurs
They're resisting being hypnotized by those hideous Sunderland away shirts.
Hello chaps . I'm back for the late one. I was gone because I was watching the movie " Pretty in Pink." Actually I was on the phone regarding a tutoring job, but I'm back now.
I did watch while I was on the phone. A dominant start by the Spuds. Fred is sound asleep in my bedroom.
I just read the comment about the crash and the tree . I hope everyone in ENY is OK.
Welcome back, MUR. You haven't missed much. "Pretty in Pink" is probably a superior entertainment.
Number One Son shoots over after Harry Kane tackled Cattermole and set him up. Makes Fred feel like Number Two Son
I reckon that UWS has gone off for a spot of emergency tree surgery.
BOOM BOOM. Thanks mate.
Didaboji fouls Sissy just outside the box and should have been booked , but wasn't
Eric Dier fancies this long shot effort at the free kick.
Not quite the same as his effort this summer against Russia.
ERic Dier shoots the free kick will over. The free kick was a dier of one.
Jordan Pickford got that name because he frequently picks the ball out of the back of the net. Am I right?
Wnayama fouls Pienaar on his return to SFL
The free kick from Jan is headed well over by Jan Kierchoff.
Wnayama volleys wide after two previous Spuds efforts were blocked.
Sunderland would be well pleased with escaping Shite Fart with a point here. What does Fred think of it so far?
Its not meant to be for me to be on LOB
Busy making sure everything is okay outside
I LOVE having a full house generator
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