The Vice Presidential Debate Live!
Evening, folks. It's time for "the other guys," the quadrennial Vice Presidential Debate. Tonight we've got a battle of 60 something white guy former governors, Tim Kaine from Virginia and Mike Pence from Indiana. These events are usually not events that produce knock-out blows but they can be entertaining and often produce memorable one-liners such as Lloyd Bentson's quip that Dan Quayle was "no Jack Kennedy." I hope you'll join me from 8:30pm onward to follow the debate from Longwood University in Virginia.
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A very good Veep Debate evening to all of you. I'm blogging live from the watching party over at the student union on campus. Let the games begin!!
Buttocks
The moderator, a correspondent for CBS News that I don't know has been introduced.
Welcome, John - how are you, mate!
A bit of a sparse crowd here tonight. Kaine and Pence aren't quite the draw that Trump and Clinton are.
The group sponsoring this event tonight has opted for the quiet, staid coverage on C-Span. None of that Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity cable news muck for three kids, Good on 'em.
The candidates have been introduced and are looking relaxed, First question is about experience.
I'm on with you. Canned response to start.
Ugh.
Answer the friggin question.
Kaine begins by evading the question and talking about civil rights and HRC. Answer the question, mate - we don't care what you think of Longwood.
Maybe the strategy is to get everyone to shut off the TV before Pence talks.
Welcome, Johnno! Great to have you on board!
Uh-oh, Pence trying to make eye contact with me. I feel queasy.
This could be long night - Pence launches into a standard stump speech.
Pence is trying to hypnotize you, mate.
If the audience here at Fredonia is any thing to go on, most Americans are watching Chopped right now.
Kaine Isi asked to defend HRC against charges of untrustworthiness. Doesn't really address that.- moves on quickly to knocking Trump.
Pence gets a similar question. Goes after HRC straight away. These two are like Vinnie Jones welcoming Akan Sheaer to the match.
Kaine interrupts first trying to accuse Trump and Pence of Putin-loving, Another interruption about Trump's taxes. Kaine is coming off as testy.
Quijano is all over it.
Kaine is coming off as gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Oh... he is gay.
Kaine now details Obama accomplishments in order to build the case for HRC as following his legacy. Pence now butting in. This could get out of hand quickly. Where's Lester Holt?
Now, now JDLC - I do believe that Johnno was saying that it was Pence who was giving him the eye,
Boilerplate Republican trickle down stuff from Pence now.
LOL ;)
Nice planned line there from Kaine - do you want a You're Hired President in HRC or. You're Fired President in Trump. That will make the highlight reels.
How fitting. Kaine's dad was in "iron".
Pence asked about Trump's taxes now. He evades it by going back to the boilerplate stuff - lower taxes on the rich and regulations.
Pence asked about Trump and his taxes again. He goes to the legality, but what about the morality?
Kaine goes after the issue again hard...like iron, I suppose. Ouch!
Pence is a master.
The moderator nags them about speaking over each other. Now on to SSI.
I feel bad for him; he got beaten up trying to defend Trump. He should be running with Cruz.
Now on to crime and race.
Gay as a maypole.
Kaine speaks to his record ini Richmond, VA. Community policing - fairly safe approach.
Ha! Hits Pence on Stop and Frisk policy. Good jab.
Kaine and his "wife" have an open marriage, according to Mr. Kaine. Of course they do. He's gay. Can you imagine if Trump said he and Melania have an open marriage?
Community policing works wonderfully well in our nation's capital.
Pence speaks about his uncle, a police officer. Agrees with Kaine on community policing. Police union endorsement. Claims that people of badmouthing, perhaps HRC?
How far into the bottle of Courvoisier are you, JDLC?
Kaine and his wife don't have an open marriage. Jeez
Kaine speaks specifically ago police killings and criminal justice reform.
That's just the cognac sparking, John. 😉
Mr. Rogers with dreadlocks. Oh... I'm so sure that's what he was called.
Pence finally gets around to defending Stop and Frisk.
Kaine goes after Trump's most outrageous statements.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Now on to immigration - Pence tries to tie immigration to the economy. What would your migrant workers make of that notion, Johnno?
Pence goes after the HRC "basket off deplorables" comment, Kaine responds that HRC apologized and wonders when Trump has ever apologized.
Kaine outlines the basic Obama Dream Act immigration policy. A strep forward but not the open borders policy that I'd like to see.
Pence is asked how immigrants will be removed. Not much of a response of that, only a few words about criminal aliens. How do you "move them out?"
Kaine makes a strong pitch for multicultural America.
Is the world safer? Kaine thanks it is.
Nice zinger about Trump's tweets about Miss Universe. That was a body blow. Pence looks winded.
Kaine kicking ass now.
Pence believe that the country is less safe because of Obama's weak leadership. Interesting that Pence is sounding like a standard neocon while Trump has been pitching an isolationist approach, Significant distance between them there.
Now Pence is attacking the Iran deal.
Pence is asked to defend the "extreme vetting" program. He wants to suspend the Syrian refugee program. Kaine hits them on focusing on the danger instead of an entire religion.
Kaine is asked to defend the intelligence surge idea. This is weak terrain for Kaine and HRC. He speaks about outsourcing intelligence to private companies, frightening stuff,
Intelligence surge is two things. It's "intelligence" and it's a "surge".
I'm off home now, lads. Nice chatting with you.
The work together in the Senate line is one you can only use once.
Bob-san . . . you are our glue!
Quijano is superb
Did Pence just call Putin a "bully"?
Goodnight Johnno!
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