Lakenheath Old Boys

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Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Debate Watch 2016!

I'm settling in after a long day at work to enjoy tonight's Democratic Party debate. It's coming to us live from Las Vegas, a place known for its pugilistic battles, starting at 8:30pm EST. It should be a lively one, as its the first chance for these candidates to impress the American people. Hillary Clinton is still considered the front runner in the primaries, but Vermont Senator - and Blue Devil's favored candidate - Bernie Sanders is running her hard and even leading the polls in New Hampshire. The others - Martin O'Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee are all polling at approximately "bugger all" to use the Python parlance. So, they'll need to score some knock-out blows to have any impact at all.

So, pour yourself a libation and join me for the usual LOB political banter, won't you?

90 Comments:

Blogger The Blue Devil said...

The preliminaries have started on the cable news outlets.

7:51 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

One of the dramatic mystery factors tonight is whether Joe Biden will show up. Indeed, CNN have taken the trouble of having a portable podium on hand in case Uncle Joe appears.

8:19 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Got a libation. Is there a drinking game tonight?

8:23 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Oh Lord, save me from Wolf Blitzer. Ugh.

8:24 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Rhode Island's first Presidential candidate ever. Chaffee was a milquetoast here, maybe he'll do well on the national stage. Not holding my breath, though.

8:26 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

We're moments away from the beginning of the debate. Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Shultz has just introduced a taped segment featuring the President.

8:31 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Evening, Bivalve - how are you? Thanks for joining me!

8:32 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Fortunately, Wolf is about to sign off on his prelim show.

8:33 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Hey, Blue Devil! I've been looking forward to this.

8:34 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I've just finished my dinner after my late class. So, I've just poured myself a glass of port. What are you drinking?

8:34 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

So, if you're not pulling for your fellow Rhode Islander, Chafee, who do you favor tonight?

8:35 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Pinot Grigio is all I could scrounge up. House is still being torn apart to repair water damage from this past winter/spring.

8:36 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Here we go, then - Anderson Cooper is introducing the candidates now.

8:36 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Sorry to hear that. I hope you're able to sort that out soon.

8:37 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

I'm a Bernie fan. It'll be interesting to see if he can be goaded into a little mud slinging.

8:38 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Glad to hear it - I'm fully in the tank for Bern.

8:38 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

The five candidates are all out on stage.

8:41 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Okay, I love Sheryl Crow just fine, but what's with the anthem before the debate.

8:41 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Wow. She's not in her best voice tonight. Give her props, though. She stuck with it and a capella, too. It's a bit weird, isn't it?

8:43 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

The anthem is notoriously hard to sing, especially a cappella. She gave it her all, I suppose.

8:44 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

She should have started lower. That last high note was insanely high.

8:45 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

It's interesting that they're advertising the Meryl Streep/ Carrie Mulligan "Suffragette" movie during this - niche marketing?

8:47 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Gotta sell to those Hillary supporters.

8:47 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Introductions by the candidates now. Chafee up first.

8:49 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Lincoln's surely gone on beyond his two minutes here.....

8:49 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

He turned Rhode Island around??!! HAHAHAHA

8:49 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Jim Webb is obviously carving out a niche for himself as the most pro-military candidates on the Dem side. Probably the furthest to the right of this group.

8:51 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Where was Rhode Island going?

8:51 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Rhode Island was in the crapper when he was governor. It's just now starting to turn around now due to our wonderful new governor, Gina Raimondo.

8:52 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Martin O'Malley next. Definitely the best looking of the bunch. He's a smoothy.

8:52 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Maryland's schools the best in America?? Can he back that up?

8:53 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

These are all going on well beyond two minutes - has Anderson lost his stopwatch?

8:54 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Not at all - Connecticut wins that year after year.

8:54 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Cue the music.

8:54 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Come on, Bernie!

8:54 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Bernie hitting all of the highlights here - income inequality, Citizens United, climate change, prison industry. Woo hoo!

8:56 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Everyone else gave a rundown of their resumes. Bernie goes straight to his talking points that we've been hearing all along. I wonder if he shouldn't have started with explaining his democratic socialist views and making them less scary to the ignorant.

8:56 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Sanders is the only one getting applause during his intro. Well done!

8:57 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I'm not sure Bernie is going to get red baited in this debate. That would be a mistake for any of the other candidates. In the same way that it would be a mistake for any of them to pick a fight with Hillary about her emails or Benghazi.

8:58 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Ah, another resume. Already playing the grandma card.

8:58 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Big hand for Hillary on paid family leave.

8:59 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Our Senator Kirsten Gillebrand loving Hillary in the audience there.

9:00 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Hillary doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of building bridges in Washington.

9:00 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

First question - the flip flop issue for Hillary. She'll have expected that.

9:00 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

You're absolutely right - she's got more negatives with Repubs than any other candidate.

9:01 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Not convincing and Anderson is pushing her on it.

9:01 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Flip flop = absorb new information. Hunh.

9:02 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Hillary says she's a "progressive who likes to get things done." Not buying it.

9:02 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Anderson lobs the socialist question at Bernie now. This will give him a chance to define himself. He'll eat this one up.

9:03 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Here we go. Explain away, Bernie.

9:04 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Nice spin on Anderson's question - well done!

9:05 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

He's not answering Anderson's question. He honeymooned in the Soviet Union?

9:06 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Hillary tries to hop on the question. She believes that she's about saving capitalism from itself. She did well there.

9:06 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Anderson now pushing Chafee on his Republican past.

9:07 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Chaffee is a block of granite? Oh dear.

9:08 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Chafee is the antithesis of excitement.

9:08 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

The headlines here are writing themselves.

9:09 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

I like that Cooper isn't allowing any b.s. Well they waffle, he interrupts them.

9:09 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Who on the SNL cast would play Chaffee?

9:09 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

O'Malley is really sleepy as well. I want a tape of him talking about criminal justice policy by my bedside at night. zqzzzzz

9:10 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Fred Armisen could have done it - maybe a guest appearance?

9:10 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Did O'Malley have a hit of cough syrup before the debate?

9:11 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Has O'Malley been botoxed? He seems to have no expression around the eyes.

9:11 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Now pushing Jim Webb on affirmative action. He's wrong that affirmative action was only related to race. Hillary is likely to jump in on this one. He's opened the door.

9:12 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

He's completely vacant.

9:12 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Now gun control - this could be trouble for Sanders. But he'll have to have anticipated it.

9:12 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Air quotes about "race"??? What is up with that?

9:12 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Running through his bona fides on gun policy. Not bad. But he needs to answer the question too.

9:13 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Webb has real problems on race and gender issues.

9:14 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Ouch - Hillary is tough on Sanders on the gun issue. She gets a big hand on that one.

9:14 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Hillary scored some points there. Bernie calling for a consensus.

9:16 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Gotta give it to Hillary on attacking when the opening presented itself.

9:17 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Ooh, a little fire from O'Malley.

9:18 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

She's been very strong.

9:21 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Hillary rattling some sabres over Putin now - this is an opening for someone to hit her on her hawkishness.

9:22 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Bernie now taking the time to explain the context of Syria. A big hand when he describes Iraq as a quagmire.

9:24 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Chafee given the opportunity to hit Hillary - and he takes it. She's taking some flak now.

9:24 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Hillary trying to explain her "poor judgment" now. Her response is that she's a good friend of Obama. Not convincing.

9:25 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Excellent answers on the foreign policy questions there.

9:28 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Not sure if Bernie won any points on that answer.

9:28 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

O'Malley going after Hillary now.

9:29 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

He's giving excuses for voting for war??

9:29 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Hillary is taking it from all corners now; this is her real weak areas.

"Well, I am in the middle!" Ouch!

9:30 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Linc's been so quiet. He's not complaining or asserting.

9:31 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

She's well outside the mainstream of Democratic Party politics on these issues - far too hawkish.

9:31 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Okay, a nice exhibition of her foreign policy knowledge.

9:32 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Now Jim Webb's trying to outflank Hillary on the hawkishness.

Now Bernie's turn - he was caught off guard by Anderson there.

9:34 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Bernie seems flat footed and caught off guard on where to go after the door opened on China. Takes it back to Russia.

9:34 PM  
Blogger The Blue Devil said...

Well, I'm going to call it a night, Bets. I've got an early morning tomorrow, so I'll catch up with the highlights later.

Cheerio!

9:35 PM  
Blogger Bivalve88 said...

Ta!

9:35 PM  

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