Belgium vs England -- Same again boys
I'm hoping that the Three Lions are hungry enough today to do over the Belgians again. Join me here.
posted by gooner71 @ 12:48 PM
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Sunday, November 15, 2020
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No longer anonymous or g00ne71, the original gooner71 is back. I figured out that somehow the blog was trying to force me to use my google address instead of my comcast one I signed up for.
I'm sure you're all relieved. Talk to you soon, right here.
C'mon England!!!
A must win for the Three Lions!
France have already made the semis!
Grealish starts his first competitive game for England
Mount plays as well
Three at the back
Two holding middies(grrrr)
Kane gets his 50th cap
No Sterling
Belgium XI: Courtois, Alderweireld, Denayer, Vertonghen, Meunier, Witsel, Tielemans, T Hazard, Mertens, De Bruyne, R Lukaku
England XI: Pickford, Walker, Trippier, Mings, Dier, Chilwell, Rice, Henderson, Mount, Grealish, Kane.
As it stands
1 Belgium 9 pts +6
2 Denmark 7 pts +2
3 England 7 pts +1
4 Iceland 0 pts -9
Matches to be played
Today
Belgium v England
Denmark v Iceland
Wednesday
England v Iceland
Belgium v Denmark
So...England need a win today and on Wednesday
Need Belgium to beat Denmark
I CARE
Win one for Ray Clemence!
RIP
Hiya, boys - really looking forward to this one. I have no idea what the stakes are in the convoluted Nations League set-up but a match against Belgium is always going to be a big one.
Come on, you England boys!
I just posted the stakes buddy....stop being a plonker
Winner of the group joins France,(Holland, Poland or Italy) and Germany or Spain in the Final Four
Holders Portugal.... pipped by the World Champs yesterday
ESPN's coverage starts at 2:30 for a 2:45 kick off
Scotland lost today for the first time in 10....they were going for 10 straight games without losses of the first time in 97 years!
They were the better team but lost to Slovakia...they are still favorites to win the group and get promoted
Of course, I am still watching the Masters
I read somewhere this week, UEFA are having discussions about possibly having the whole tournament in the UK next summer
Euros that is...not the NL
Still have the Masters on my TV and watching ESPN on my computer. I'll change it for kick off
ESPN....starts off
England are 4th in the world?
Scots are still over the moon for qualifying for the Euros!!
Thanks to the NL
I really hope Grealish plays well today
Come on England
Come on England
Come on England
ENGURLUND ENGURLUND ENGULUND
Here come the Belgians... followed by the English
Good afternoon. Here to join you for Belgium vs England.
COME ON ENGLAND!
Harry for a hat-trick... on his half century of caps
I understand the "stakes" in terms of Nations League but I don't care about the NL - it's a phony baloney tournament invented by UEFA as a money-spinner. I only care about the World Cup and the European Championship. And it's not clear to me how the NL affects either of those apart from perhaps the international ranking of sides. Am I wrong?
Hiya David
Are you sure you're allowed to watch this...you're in the Dahlgren corner
Wonder why Maguire isn't playing
It's a pleasure having this broadcast on the telly in English.
Wouldn't Scotland have qualified for the Euros through the old playoff system regardless of the Nations League?
TURN IT OFF!!
Horrible singing by the England boys. Gareth has to get them some coaching.
Interesting what you stated about England possibly hosting the Euros. I think it's a last resort. I think the COVID situation won't be this dire by the Summer and that UEFA is being stubborn about the tournament being played in multiple countries
Why? I like a good friendly!
The Nations League gives teams a back door to qualifying the Euros or WC
Scotland fans love the NL!
If England hadn't qualified for the Euros, they were have made the playoffs because they won their NL group
It is the LEAGUE CUP for England...I want to win it
LOL. We're banned, Bob?
Welcome, David - that's my hope, too. Psychologically I can get through the spring in the same mode if there is the promise of a vaccine at some point and a return to some sort of relative normality come the summer.
BANNED
Dier and Walker in the back makes for a shaky Three Lions back three
I could like the Nations League but for the mini-league concept. That part of it is utter, utter bollocks. I'm with you Bob, the European Championships and the World Cup provide plenty of football already.
What is the difference between the old playoff system and the Nations League playoffs other than the branding?
SHUNNED... both of you... and probably Steve as well
The Three Stooges
We are off
They're off from Belgium.
COME ON ENGLAND!
And we're away in Belgium - come on, you Whites!
Old playoffs were positioning in qualifying groups not NL
I'm done with you numpties
No fake crowd noise tonight, so we'll just hear the bellowing from the players.
Match being played in a town about twenty miles from Brussels because Flanders somehow doesn't have a curfew?
Great run from Kane....shanked wide
Harry Kane and NOT Abe to give England the lead as he has long range shot go wide off marking by Axel Witsel Rose
The other thing about the Nation's League is how complacently in line the commentators have been, even praising it and claiming widespread public support for it. I've not seen that, at all.
And I'm not sure that the presence of the Scots at a major tournament is a pro for the NL. They're a rubbish side (Liam Cooper excepted, of course).
I really hope this Belgian side..their Golden Generation....go the same way as England's and Portugal's
Wales defeated Ireland 1-0 and now lead the group by one point over the Finns
They will do some damage...they will host 2 of their 3 games
Jason was a Denayer as he fouled Jack Grealish
I always want the home nations to make it
England, Wales and Scotland all in it...NoI lost in their final!
The problem for this Belgian side is that, even though they're a strong unit, they have very little tournament mentality, so they're always likely to lose a match in the latter stages against a bigger side.
Kate's not happy to see Jack Grealish in the starting XI tonight - she's not a fan.
Scots have a few decent players. Mini Cooper not the only driving force. Andy Robertson and Kieran Tierney decent players as well.
I am a fan of his but NOT his socks
Of course, England wearing black arm bands for Clemence
I agree, Dave - I always pull for the Home Nations in qualifiers. However, if the rationale for NL is to produce more competitive tournaments, the presence of Scotland at the Euros weakens that notion.
Ali will be North Macedonia's Leeds presence in their team this Summer. I guess Ali wasn't eligible to represent East, West South, or just plain Macedonia
TURN IT OFF!!
You are stubborn
Sad that Nobby Stiles and Ray Clemence passed away within a few weeks of each other
That's true about the Scots. Tierney was dropping it on that Sheffield ruffian's head all match and he couldn't have been more rubbish. That Celtic center forward was equally unprofessional with his finishing. If the Scots don't sharpen up exponentially, it'll just be a participation street party with the Tartan Army again. It's enough to do Roy Keane's head in.
Very sad news about Ray. And Des O'Connor. I can't say that I was a particular fan, but he was always a presence on the telly when we were kids, especially during the holidays.
Not a good week for Iceland. They blew it in Hungary and are already relegated from League A
BUGGER! TIELEMANS GIVES BELGIUM THE LEAD. LONG RANGE SHOT GOES IN OFF THE INSIDE OF THE POST
STRUTH...in off the post!
Could Pickford have done better?
England with a pathetic ball out of the back
I hate that crap
Bugger! Belgium go 0-1 through Tielemans!
Bloody Dire of Dier with a crap clearance. Now we're up against it.
Not Pickers fault at all
oooh... Grealish should have equalized!
He did well...it was blocked
Poor from Pickers out of the back but the deflection was key to taking it out of his range.
oooh....Kane with a header....saved off the line by Lukaku
It sounded like the Belgian tannoy played a blast of Kylie Minogue when they scored. Odd choice.
What a save by Lukaku... same as a goal
I wasn't going to say it, but I thought even with the deflection, Pickers was at fault for not covering that shot.
Oh - Kane with a great header there and it's cleared off the line by The Chunk!
OH! Header from Harry Kane and Not Abel to go in off the corner . Headed off the line by the Chunk
Good response by England here
Come on....get a goal
Have you heard Belgium's Eurovision entries? Kylie is a 100% upgrade.
Eriksen gives the Danes the lead vs Iceland with a spot kick
Training pitch routine for the free kick - nearly came off.
England need to just win this and have the Danes lose to the Belgians. What the Danes do today, doesn't matter
I know....nothing matters
I can imagine that the Belgians are big fans of Eurotrash disco.
Back to the goal. Poor clearance from Pickford. Two passes later the Chunk passed to Tielemans, whose shot took a double deflection off of Claret and Sky Blue club men , Rice and Mings and off the inside of the post
OK, so now that the Danes are winning, and England is losing, have we been demoted to playing Gibraltar next?
Grealish...shot blocked..looked like a foul there
I don't see why Sterling has an automatic spot
Thank you for admitting that, Dave. Now if only Trump would admit that he lost the election, we could all move on with our lives. ;-)
It was a loose pass out of the back from Dier. Pickers was late to get to the deflected shot.
You don't think that he is one of the top English strikers in the country? He's always among the top scorers.
Iceland guaranteed to go down
YOu're as bad as the others
I just don't get why all of you don't appreciate this
So bad there by Dier.... useless clearance
Cross from KDB missed kicked over for a corner and a really dire clearance
Dier is showing once again that he might be a reasonable option as defensive middie but he's a liability in the back four.
I remember pre WC18 everyone wanted him dropped. I don't think he has improved much
Scored goals for City but misses so many chances
Agreed about Trump, Bob. Enough is enough
I hate you all
If you're talking about Sterling, he dives a lot too.
I think Dier was the one that gifted possession that led to the Belgian goal
England have had chances here
The replays confirm that Pickford should have kept that out, deflection notwithstanding.
I've just looked up Raheem's England stats. He's scored 13 goals in 58 appearances. It's not Kane's record but it's clearly better than other England forwards right now.
Shame for Pickers - he's really having a bad time of it these days. Nick Pope must have a chance of taking his spot right now.
Pickford "picks" the ball out of the net.
Free kick chance for the Belgians....he got all ball... KDB is the one that made the contact!!!
Rice fouls KDB just outside the Three Lions box
Not just the way the refs call it...it's the way the players play
Two nil
Bloody hell...never a foul
Dangerous free kick position now for the Belgians.
And Sterling could really trouble the lead-feet of Aldewierald, Denayer, and Vertongan. Has he contracted the virus? I can't understand his omission from the squad.
England don't deserve to be down two
BUGGER! DRIES MERTENS PUTS BELGIUM TWO UP. HE BENT IT LIKE BECKHAM. GREAT FREE KICK
Bugger! Dries Mertens whips in Belgium's second goal.
Bugger, that's two. Very well taken free-kick. Now it's a tough ask for England.
It was NEVER a free kick!!
He kicked the ball away and KDB then kicked him!!
Agreed, Dave - England have had the better chances but Belgium have taken both of their chances with precision.
Is Sterling injured? Is he being left out for a falling out with Gareth?
Are you guys watching on the telly? You guys seem to be behind me
Agreed - it's the way that the game is officiated these days.
He has some calf injury
Rash with a shoulder
I'm watching on the telly, yeah.
Now I'm rueing that Kane shanked that first minute shot.
I am watching on the telly too
Telly.
Dangerous cross by Kane!
Get on the end of it
I am still pleased with the performance so far
Ah - shame that no one was following in there when Chilly dinked it back into the area.
Grealish is getting into more dangerous positions than Kane
Dries Mertens clears for an England corner
I am, too - England have played well against a strong opponent. Just need to be more clinical in taking their chances.
"more accomplished"
What does that mean!!
Jorginho gives Italy the lead vs Poland with a spot kick and now Italy is top of their group, a point ahead of the Dutch
The dour Scot can't come up with the phrase clinical finishing. England have had chances spurned by a lack of clinical finishing. Belgium have clinically finished both of theirs.
Agreed. England's performance is pretty good. They need to improve with their finishing
Dier again just passed it to an unmarked Belgian. C'mon Gareth!
There's no need to play Dier at center back. Even if Maguire is dropped, Michael Keane and Tyrone Mings are a better option.
England corner as a mounted shot is blocked off a pass from Grealish
Chillwell not well at the moment
Mount could have been better with his half-chance. That close to the goal, you would like the keeper to have to make a save.
Ah - Mount was in there but shanked his effort. That's where England have faltered this evening.
I'm surprised Dier still gets a game for England. Surely there are better options than him
Absolutely. Dier is just an embarrassment for English football. He shouldn't be within miles of a place with the 3-Lions.
Keep it in your nostrils mate!!!
Chillwell is not well and on comes Saka
Chilly off injured. Nor sure who replaced him
Chilly doesn't seem able to continue, so we'll get another chance to see the Arsenal youngster Bakayo Saka - he's one of my favorite young England players right now.
Steve will be happy to see ska on the pitch now
That long ball out to touch from KDB gets a thumbs up from the Jock in the booth. If that had been Chilwell's hoof, Och, the Humanity.
And Chilwell's not going to recover from that injury today. Saka on. Please be gentle you Frite-lovers.
No, not happy. I want him 100% to face Leeds in a week. For proper competition, not this lark.
Agreed, Steve . We don't want Saka being waffled
The Big Match on Sunday.... The DAHLGREN BROTHER BATTLE is actually on NBCSN and NOT the Cock!
I'd have Dier as a squad player option at defensive middie but behind several others (e.g., Hendo, Kal Phillips).
TURN IT OFF
Not sure if Bob will concur about Saka's playing status. Won't want top see him facing Leeds next weekend
Lovely - I'm looking forward to it. Of course, according to my patented survival rubric, we don't need anything out of the match, so I'm just going to relax and enjoy it.
Good-God, KDB sauntered from the half-way line to Lukaku's pass without a single English player near him. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN????
Will United actually WIN a HOME game.... vs West Barcode Albion.... doubt it.... we will be too slow and won't break them down
Kane with a chance... saved
Axel Witsel Rose booked for a heavy metal challenge on Jack Grealish
Late from Witsel who picks up a yellow.
England win a corner then a header is mounted wide from the corner
A pair of satoppage time minutes
only two minutes... GET IT FORWARD!!
Just loses the ball...grrr
I don't think Gareth likes Grealish
I think he will take him off
I don't think he has been bad and I think he should stay on
Ref doesn't call that foul on the edge of the box
STAY ON SIDE!!
Half time
Kane dropping very deep to get the ball now - always a bad sign.
Belgium is two up at the half , but in reality it's been a fairly even half. Belgium have been more clinical in front of goal
Half-time: England have played reasonably well and have had more chances but Belgium have taken their chances more clinically. 2-0 Belgium.
Yeah, I hate it when Kane drops into the midfield.
Graelish hasn't been at his best, but he deserves another 25 minutes at least. It's not like Gareth has anyone in the squad he's named today that would be better. I'd like to see Sancho on for Mount. What I'd really like to have seen is someone to partner Kane. Why doesn't Southgate have that player in the squad?
All to do in the second half.
Lukaku has done nothing....except save a goal off the line
We are off
I could see Belgian dropping the tempo in the second half, thinking that the job is done and allowing England back into it.
Winks for Hendo. Bold managing.
Winks on for Hendo in the second half.
I'd like to see Foden and Sancho on at some point in the second half.
Back for the second half. Not pleased with that change. That won't help England score
three of five subs allowed?
I hate Pep and Klopp complaining about the 5 subs...it is an unfair advantage for the bigger teams...they have two full line ups of superstars.....the other teams....don't have a full side
Those two players would be a greater help
U.S. vs Panama on tomorrow at 3 on TUDN. Will anyone be around for that?
Agreed. Not happy that they allow five subs in the NL. It's six if the match goes to ET
Yeah - I should be around for some of it, David. If you post the thread, I should be able to chime in during my office hours.
Nice move from Kane..... such a shame he wasn't in the box!
Exactly. Someone said earlier that he doesn't think Southgate likes Grealish. Doesn't trust Graelish is probably closer to the mark. But Southgate must be braver and trust that a mercurial talent like Graelish will come good more often than not. I may have not always thought that, but in the absence of more dangerous strikers and attacking players, he's got to be brave,
That was a foul by Grealish...England have sneakily moved the ball further back
A spursy clash as Toby booked for fouling Harry Kane just outside the box
Yeah, planning my day around that Panama match. I'l be on.
Kane picks up a great free kick now.
Why doesn't Kane take them....ATROCIOUS effort by Mount
Horrible free kick mounted into the cheap seats. Belgium scored with theirs
Get the hook for Mount. That was an opportunity and it was spurned awfully. Sancho ASAP.
Mason Mount over this one. And there you see the gulf in talent between England and Belgium. Mertens executed his perfectly while Mount hoofed it high, wide and 'orrible.
Does Saka know he's playing in white....that pass was right to a red shirt....not even a Arsenal type red
Another free kick to England
Mount....keep away
Agreed - he should have been yanked immediately after that dreadful free kick and given a clip round the ear by Gareth.
I'll be around tomorrow too.
Another free for a foul on Jack. Mason, guard for a Belgian break and give someone else a go.
How is that not a penalty?!
Grealish scares teams
He should play
Trippier scored in WC semi to take...Blocked by.... MINGS!!!
Meunier booked for a trip on Grealish just outside the box. Into the wall by Trippier
I don't get what everyone sees in Mount....or Rice
Trippier looks like he's keen on this one. And into the wall. Grrrr!
AGAIN....ENGLAND THE BETTER TEAM
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