Belgium v. England!
A very happy Sunday morning, chaps! Let's be honest - this Nations League is a bit of tosh, isn't it? No one bar MUR has any idea what on earth is going on. But the games keep coming and today's offering is, well, a bit more serious than a match with Iceland. Belgium are a proper football team and it's high time for England to exact some revenge for those two losses to the Red Devils in the last World Cup. So join me from around 11:45am for the build up to the match at noon EST on the Plus. Come on, you Three Lions!
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Hey Boys
I am back from the 1800s and have electricity! I will be here with bells on!
No Harry Kane
Pickers is back
Not liking the midfield!!
ENGLAND TEAM NEWS
Team to play Belgium: Pickford, Alexander-Arnold, Walker, Dier, Maguire, Trippier, Rice, Henderson, Mount, Rashford, Calvert-Lewin
Subs: Pope, Henderson, James, Mings, Coady, Maitland-Niles, Phillips, Ward-Prowse, Grealish, Kane, Ings, Sancho
BELGIUM TEAM NEWS
Team to play England: Mignolet, Alderweireld, Denayer, Boyata, Meunier, Castagne, Witsel, Tielemans, De Bruyne, Carrasco, Lukaku
Subs: Roef, Kaminski, Mechele, Kayembe, Vanaken, Dendoncker, Verschaeren, Trossard, Origi, Doku, Benteke, Batshuayi
Why didn't Greallish earn a starting spot?
Good morning, Bob and Dave. Glad that you have power back, Dave. We were without power for 72 hour in July 2008 after Hurricane Dolly. It was really hot in the house
To answer, Bob. This NL is being linked top WC as the previous one is linked to Euro 2021. In terms of England their main goal is not finish last or else they will be relegated to League B for E2-24. If they finish top they get to play in the four team mini tournament in wither September or October next year
I agree with Dave. Is Gareth taking this 100% seriously? Where exactly is he playing Kyle Walker . In midfield? Center back? Left back with Trippier in midfield? It is a bizarre midfield
Some bizarre scheduling due to COVID cancelations in March, Ireland, Scotland, Ireland played in NL 2021 on Thursday, but playing NL 2022 today. sure if the years are correct but I'm picking the tournaments the NL is being linked to
Ireland vs Wales finished 0-0 earlier this morning. Wales running away with the group, so they have a" second chance" if they fail to qualify via their WC qualifying group
I think it is three at the back
Walker, Dier and Maguire
Morning, boys - I'm fresh from the shower with my lucky England '66 shirt on. Had a singalong with "Three Lions" and "Vindaloo." We're ready!
Welcome back Squeaky Clean Robert
I am loving that 5Live no longer has to blackout their coverage of all the matches.
When does the Plus coverage start?
Wahay.... coverages starts
Happy to hear that you've got your power back on, Dave.
Nadal about to win the French Open....again!
6-0, 6-2 and serving 6-5....against the World #1
Thanks mate!
It was stunning how good it feels!!
We got it back at 8:30 ish on Friday....and then lost cable at 10 until the Saturday morning!
Nadal wins!!
I hate all this crap about Southgate not 'trusting' Grealish!
I think Coady should be playing too
What is the midfield?
Hendo, Rice and Mount..... so defensive!!
I don't really rate Mount!
I think the media get a player in their mind that they are great and so be it....Foden, Mount amongst others
Back as the national anthems are being played at Wembley
This is a big, big test of England's potential next summer. And possibly a referendum on Southgate's future.
Agreed, Dave. Sounds like Gareth has too much respect for Belgium. They are a good side, but England should be able to provide a real contest with the players at their disposal
Welcome, Steve. Thinking about and missing Dad on his 97th birthday. Wish he were here alongside to roar the England boys on.
Agreed - it looks as if Gareth is setting out for a draw tonight.
5Live around 30 seconds ahead of Plus
Good morning, Steve. A true test for Gareth, but not sue how serious the NL is being taken by everyone.
Don't you think that Mount will play in the hole behind DCL and Rash? With Hendo and Rice the spine to support them?
Will Denayer be a denyer to England's scoring chances
I think that sounds like an accurate description of Garth's plan, Steve
Aww... Happy Birthday Mr. Dahlgren.....thinking of you!
This must have been the time I was in Fredonia for that weekend with your dad. We tape delayed an English match as we went to watch Tom play Fredonia
They're off from Wembley
Rashford MBE.... score
We are off
Belgium get us underway then. Of course it's an odd atmosphere in Wembley with no fans around.
I know. I'd be watching this with Wayne today if PS is open to family visitors. I'd read that they were quarantining earlier this year to protect residents.
My dad would have been 97 last May
Damn.... DCL was almost in there !
Correct, Dave. We were all there for that enjoyable weekend
The very same weekend, mate. That was Dad's 90th birthday. Seven years ago! Cor! Good times.
Good start for England
Decent start by England
Peter Dreary going on about meaningless trivia
Was a good time
Long ball finds KDB on the counter but Rice a Roni blocked his shot
With friends
Great host
No masks
Cortland beat Fredonia
Still better than the TUDN commentator. They don't take a breath, ever.
Wow...Rashford actually sprinting toward the goal!!
England bossing it in terms of possession so far.
Wish England would play with more pace
How did Maguire get a spot in the line up after his performance against Spurs
I am surprised that Walker is the side
He was out for awhile and then came back and got a red card!
I have no idea why Maguire OR Walker are still in Gareth's plans.
Maguire is still England's best center back, IMHO. He just doesn't want to play of OGS.
Agreed Dave or Steve. After Walker's debacle in Iceland violating COVID rules in the Spring he should never be in an England squad again. Maguire is mentally not there and should have been left out
Did you see the news today about the plan... 'Project Big Picture' proposed by Liverpool and backed by Man U
I HATE IT!!
I'm unconvinced that that's the case Bob. I think his summer extracuriculars have done Harry's head in. I'd drop him if I was Gareth. Maybe OGS can't until he brings in a center back in the next window.
The Chunk heads a cross sideways as the England defense was caught out for the first time
Phew...England survive.... modern day cross there but it did find Lukaku...weak effort
I can only imagine what that plan must entail if the big clubs are invested in it.
Is that the FA's idea to go to PPV?
One Nil Belgium......no...offside!!!
Lovely jubbley
Bugger! Carrasco lashes home a goal for Belgium.
Phew! Called offside.
BUGGER! CARRASCO GIVES BELGIUM THE LEAD.
What a relief as it's disallowed for offside on Meunier
Is there VAR
Why didn't the linesman put his flag up!!
I have no idea!!!
Well done the Lino. Lucky escape for England. Hope that's a wake-up call. This mayonnaise enthusiasts look pretty sharp.
I haven't read the plan , but knowing our luck anything involving expenditures must be the plan
I hate all these color men with all their tactic talk...they talk a load of rubbish sometimes
Belgian left sided attack is killing England. Rampant KDB. Someone give him a bruise.
Agreed, Steve. A slow start for Belgium, but they have improved the last few minutes
Game run by the "Big Six"
Pathetic
TAA with a slow start to this season. Agreed that the Belgians see him as the weak link
There was a great conversation on the 606 pod yesterday about the new Premiership plan to charge fans £14.99 a week for the extra matches not shown on Sky.
Makes Peacock seems a bargain!
I think Belgium get too much credit for being such a good side
They are okay but not much better
Should have lost to Russia in the WC
Lukaku shows lots of speed....useless tackle by Dier!!!
Stonewall penalty!
PENALTY BELGIUM. THAT WAS A RELA DIRE CHUNK OF DEFENDING AND DCISION MAKING. REAL STUPIDITY AND BEATEN FOR PACE
Bugger! Dier flew in there and hacked down The Chunk. Stupid challenge.
Penalty to Belgium.
GOAL !!! THE CHUNK SCORES FROM THE SPOT SENDING HIS FORMER TOFFEES TEAMMATE THE WRONG WAY
Jesus. Dier with a schoolboy error challenge. Really rubbish.
Lukaku's penalty crashed in.
Lukaku to take....great pen!
Lukaku should have still be at Old Trafford
Lukaku with a stutter step run up and scores.
0-1 Belgium. That was coming for the past five minutes.
Dahlgrentype tackle there
I won't be watching any matches for fifteen pounds a week. Too expensive for yours truly
Dreary keeps saying Belgium's dominance....it hasn't been that much
Am I wrong?
I don't think Belgium played Russia in WC 2018. I know they should have lost to Japan. is that the match you were referring to?
Believe it or not, I never gave away a penalty in my career.
KDB is playing for fun out there. But that trio marking him have trouble when they play Citeh too.
So bad by Rash
My point of of view is that Belgium picked England apart with their passing a few times. They did dominate the five minutes leading up to the goal, but not before then. That's merely my opinion
England's defense looking really rattled now.
Not too far wide by Meunier after a pa headed pass from Axel Witsel Rose
Well done mate....but you're still a blade!
Ok Gareth....this defensive side isn't working
Put some creative players on
DCL hasn't touched ball forever
England now being outclassed
This may be me, but how does Dier still get picked for England? He's really declined since the 2018 EC and he's been really dire. Can anyone help me answer that?
I'm really unhappy with the lack of quality in the English side. I don't rate any of the three at the back, and I've never been a Declan Rice fan.
Terence Trent D'Arby wins a corner. Got to take advantage of this.
TAA wins a corner off Timmy Castegne off a nice long diagonal.
Dreary sounds like he's Belgian
Weird corner from TAA, but the cross from Hendo is headed awfully wayward by Trippier
I don't like a back three to begin with, let alone one with a converted defensive midfielder like Dier in the mix.
Couldn't agree with you more, Steve
Looks like Belgium will be playing in the mini tournament next Autumn while either Iceland or Denmark will be relegated. The two play each other at 2:45 this afternoon
England defenders are being forced to launch it long at Rash, who's not very good at holding up the ball. He's better running at players with the ball.
S'gate won't make changes at half time
I think when he does make a change...it will be defensive
Modern Day game...most teams go out not to lose instead of going out to win
Leeds go out to win!!
Does any of this have anything to do with Euro 2020 (now Euro 2021)? Or with anything else that footer fans care about?
That's true - too be fair, though - our expectations are a lot lower than are those of the big sides. We don't expect to win any trophies - our fans would be happy with a mid-table finish.
That seems to be the case. Gareth is rattled by the threat of the Belgian attack and he picked as defensive a side as he had access to. But hoping to contain KDB by giving him room to create is lunacy. This looks like what Sean Dyche would pick to stop Citeh and about as effective.
This tournament is being linked to WC 2022 qualifying. I think three teams will qualify for the WC via NL playoffs
Agreed, Steve. Not likin g this. Why doesn't Gareth go back to the way England played in the 2018 WC
Decent possession there from England but a rubbish ball at the end of it from Hendo.
I think three instead of four qualifying from the playoffs due to restructuring. Teams only qualifying from leagues A, B, or C unlike the Euros where there will be one also qualifying from League D
Toothless
"decent possession" WHO CARES!
Forget the stupid defensive shape!!!
Get the ball in the box with people MOVING
Declan Rice picks up a needless yellow for a nibble on Witsel.
You mugged the wrong guy Declan. If you're going to steam in, put a mark on one of them who's torturing us.
Croatia takes the lead vs Sweden . The other match in that group is France vs Portugal which is on ESPN with kickoff at 2:45
THat's what frustrates me about Hendo as the focal point in midfield. The ball broke to him in a good position with forward runners. But instead of picking one out, he took the safe sideways pass option and the move went nowhere.
DCL wins a corner off of Toby
Corner from Trippier easily caught by Minnie
Mignolet collects the corner easily and launches another attack.
Bob, did my answer help you with the question about the purpose of this NL?
Rash back to the stand still version
That's a bit better with England players attacking it a bit. Rash wins a corner.
Rash wins a corner off a gift from Muenier
Boyata heads out the corner for another
And another corner. Belgian defenders seem went schooled for these dead ball situations.
Penalty to England!
Meuniere yellow carded!
Penalty to England!!!!
A bit of a pull back but he went down easily
Who to take?
Rashford
Os that a penalty to England off the corner?
YESSSSSSSSS!!!! MUENOER CALLED FOR A HOLKD ON HENDO.
Up comes Mr. MBE....GOAL!
Rashford to take....
Stutter step, of course.. and scores!
1-1!
WAY HAY! RASH TIES IT UP FOROM THE SPOT, SENDING MINNIE THE WRONG WAY
What a gift. Silly defending from Meunier and it's a penalty for Rash.
Even with the silly skippy crap, it's an equalizer.
I thought that was kind of soft, but we'll take it
I was thinking the same Steve. Meunier is Belgium's version of Dier today. Gifted England a corner with a pathetic pass in his own box the ball watching which lead to the hold on Hendo
Agreed, MUR - more than a bit soft. I didn't even see it at first. But we'll take it, definitely.
Not impressed by Belgium today. It's noticeable that they've only really played for about 5-10 minutes during which they had one disallowed and then scored from the pen. Otherwise, they've just sat back.
Message to Gareth. If you pick a squad that can give their defenders a problem, that's the Belgian weakness.
Denayer, Boyata, Alderweid, they're not that great and the defensive middies have to do dangerous things in their own box.
phew... Dreary wanted it to be a goal
Oh - poor defensive mistake and then Carrasco fortunately sliced it well wide.
England let off the hook there . The Chunk won a tackle just outside the England box but thanks to a horrible finish from Carrasco it's still level
I think Dreary just likes to shriek "CARRASSSCCO!"
Agreed, Dave - Dreary is clearly having moule frites with a Stella for tea after the match.
These guys say how sensational the play is.... they are just passing and moving.... BASICS
Into stoppage time. A minute of that
Agreed; there's been nothing that special about what the Belgians have been doing. They're just a well-drilled European side.
It's 1-1 at the half despite England being far from their best. Both goals were spot kicks
As I have said before....the new way of commentator.... SCREAMING the shooter's name.
Where's the David Coleman's...."one nil"
Motson's "It's There", "this is getting better and better and better"
HT
Make some changes Gareth
Harry of all people should refrain from giving the police a piece of his mind.
Half-time: I"m not overly displeased. Belgium are ranked one of the best sides in the world, so they're no mugs. This is the sort of match we want to have in the semis or the final next summer. And we're holding our own against them.
Belgium took their foot off the pedal after their goal. If they play with the precision of their opening 15 minutes, it could get embarrassing because England's defensive set up in no match.
Subs on Gareth. This formation is not working.
To be honest, I'm not sure who the favorites are to win the Euros . I'm guessing France ort Portugal who play on ESPN this afternoon. Otherwise one of about eight teams are possible tournament winners
Agreed. Gareth needs to max some changes. Only three are permitted as this is officially not a friendly. Would love to see England play less defensive
On 5Live....the teams are back....apparently not on Plus
I knew it... no changes
We are off
The second half is underway from Wembuherlay
Wil anyone be watching France vs Portugal this afternoon?
I am going to be working on my brother's-in-law treadmill after the match
NOT working out but working on it to fix it
Back for the second half with me lunch.
DCL high and wide. Not typical off his finishes this season
Not good by Rash as he had a chance to attack.... the touch dribbling was not good
DLC with an awful effort
Dave , you're quite the handyman. We could use your services around here
Thanks, David - I'll probably be raking leaves. It's that season!
Trick-or treating has been canceled in our area this year. Despite that I posted a picture of Sparky in his Halloween costume. Does anyone want me to send that as a text message?
As you have said, I really don't think Belgium has been that much better than England
According to Van-Dreary(I know that's Dutch but you get my point) Belgium are playing England off the park
I'm cheap too
Sure no problem. It's been Summer like over here since that hurricane landed in Louisiana. Still another couple of months away from leaf raking here
England want another pen
Never a pen
DCL went over in the box there. Nothng doing from the ref.
TAA with a shot on goal but Jason was a denyer as it came off hiom intro the side netting for A CORNER
Corner to England....just over Mag's head
Corner from Trippier cleared
This has been much better from England in this second half. Mount wins another corner.
England currently two points behind Belgium. Should be safe from relegation to League B. Otherwise, it's kind of a meaningless match . More prep for WC qualifying
At least England are putting in some corners....like the Prem teams should do instead of going short and getting the ball back to their keeper
Some sustained pressure from England is nice to see. Maybe it was pointed out that their back 3 is as crap as ours.
Harry Kane not starting because he has a little boo boo. Gareth doesn't give a toss about Jose's feelings.
Dreary gets so excited when Belgium have the ball....he is really ticking me off!
The angle and weight of the KDB pass....it was A PASS....I could do that!
Agreed. Jason is not a Deneyer if the back 3 is put under a great deal of pressure
DLC won't score today and everyone will say....he's not good enough
Peter Dreary said that Kyle is a willing walker. Wish he would be a willing runner too
What do you make of the rumors of Gareth trying to get Jamie Vardy back out of retirement?
I dunno. KDB is the best midfielder in the world. I'm not fussed when the commentator agrees with that assessment.
I never think players should retire from international football
I think that players should be available to play if picked....period!
Finland takes the lead vs Bulgaria . Robert Taylor with the goal. I'm not an expert in Finnish, but that doesn't sound like a finish name
I wouldn't want to see DCL starting ahead of Kane or Sterling but I always want the hot shot striker in the Premiership in the squad to come bombing off the bench.
I agree is really good but when he makes a normal pass....it isn't "sensational"
I'll have a word with Berhalter for you Dave.
Nice run down the left to Rash, who passed to Hendo, who passed to DCL and couldn't make the proper contact on the volley
Leeds' Cal coming on before Grealish....more defensive?
Bob will be pleased to see Kal coming off the bench. So will we as it's a positive move from Gareth
Lovely - Kal Phillips coming off the bench. Not exactly sure that Kal's the man for this moment but it's nice to see the boy getting another cap.
The way he drives forward with the ball. The way KDB picks out a pass. The way he hits the ball, it's all sensational.
Got no problem with the superlatives when they're merited. I didn't hear it when Dreary said it, but he's played some lovely stuff and with a great deal of vision.
Looks like Harry Kane will be Abel to get some playing time today
Kane is stripping...put a shirt on!!
Another one of my problems with the modern game... subs aren't already dressed coming out of the DRESSING room
Harry Kane showing off his "Dad bod." Where's the six-pack, 'Arry?
YES!!!!
2-1!!
It was not chipped...it was deflected!!
Dreary isn't watching!
Wahey! Mount with a pearler, maybe deflected.
WAY HAY! A DEFLECTED EFFORT MOUNTED ON GOAL GIVES ENGLAND A 2-1 LEAD. NICE CROSS FROM TAA HEADED BACK BY TRIPPIER LEADS TO THE DEFLECTED GOAL
Yes! Mason Mount has a go and it's deflects up and in!
2-1!
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